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clayinaustin
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Ya gotta backup your posts with a link or two... 
Biggest Losers: Where Americans Aren't Moving
For years more people have fled the Golden State than have arrived. In the year ended July 1, California was the country's biggest loser, with nearly 100,000 more residents leaving than moving in.
Like California, New York is, historically, a major exporter of it citizens. The state depends upon foreign migration for its population growth. But also like California, New York's out-migration eased in the year ended July 1.
Not only is Michigan third highest in the nation for net migration losses, it also has this dubious distinction: 0.88% of the Great Lakes State's nearly 10 million residents left last year, the highest ratio in the nation. The big problem, of course, is the ailing auto industry. Michigan's unemployment rate was the highest in the county in November, at 14.7%.
Illinois has a more diversified economy than Michigan, but it still is a major industrial producer and many of its factories, especially those serving the auto industry, have gone idle recently.
Ohio is another Rust Belt state going through economic turmoil, much of it tied to the auto industry. More than 368,000 have left the state than moved in during the last decade.
Biggest Losers: Where Americans Aren't Moving
For years more people have fled the Golden State than have arrived. In the year ended July 1, California was the country's biggest loser, with nearly 100,000 more residents leaving than moving in.
Like California, New York is, historically, a major exporter of it citizens. The state depends upon foreign migration for its population growth. But also like California, New York's out-migration eased in the year ended July 1.
Not only is Michigan third highest in the nation for net migration losses, it also has this dubious distinction: 0.88% of the Great Lakes State's nearly 10 million residents left last year, the highest ratio in the nation. The big problem, of course, is the ailing auto industry. Michigan's unemployment rate was the highest in the county in November, at 14.7%.
Illinois has a more diversified economy than Michigan, but it still is a major industrial producer and many of its factories, especially those serving the auto industry, have gone idle recently.
Ohio is another Rust Belt state going through economic turmoil, much of it tied to the auto industry. More than 368,000 have left the state than moved in during the last decade.
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clayinaustin
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Don't mess with Texas: More Americans moving in
Americans, it seems, still have a love affair with the West. Texas and Wyoming were the big winners in the Census Bureau's annual population estimates, which were released on Wednesday.
In the year ended July 1, Texas added more people than any other state, and Wyoming had the highest growth rate in the nation.
Texas never went through the boom-and-bust housing cycle that devastated the Sand States. Home prices remained affordable, and the state's unemployment rate was 8% in October, a full two percentage points below the national average.
Americans, it seems, still have a love affair with the West. Texas and Wyoming were the big winners in the Census Bureau's annual population estimates, which were released on Wednesday.
In the year ended July 1, Texas added more people than any other state, and Wyoming had the highest growth rate in the nation.
Texas never went through the boom-and-bust housing cycle that devastated the Sand States. Home prices remained affordable, and the state's unemployment rate was 8% in October, a full two percentage points below the national average.
JupiterSunsation
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Texas like FL has no state income tax also.
FL has been losing residents for a few years due to high property taxes, lack of industry, hurricane issues and people just trying to find a cheaper place to live.
I have moved three times in FL, each time further north trying to escape the immigration influx that turns whole communities around in 10 years or less.
FL has been losing residents for a few years due to high property taxes, lack of industry, hurricane issues and people just trying to find a cheaper place to live.
I have moved three times in FL, each time further north trying to escape the immigration influx that turns whole communities around in 10 years or less.
JupiterSunsation
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Similar article regarding people in NH (another income, sales tax free state)
NH's population: larger than Maine's, with fewer Mass. transplants
New Hampshire Union Leader
Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009
Census Bureau estimates show that New Hampshire's population has surpassed Maine's for the first time since 1800.
Both states now have about 1.3 million people, separated by a difference of about 6,000.
Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire, said the state's growth is largely due to more people choosing to move to New Hampshire than Maine.
Of New Hampshire's 89,000 new residents over the past decade, about 53,000 moved here. Maine's population grew by 43,000, with 39,000 move-ins.
For years, New Hampshire's growth depended largely on people moving in from Massachusetts, but recently our neighbors to the south have been staying put, Johnson said. From 2006 to 2008, the number of Massachusetts residents moving to the Granite State dropped by 34 percent.
It's not just Bay Staters who are choosing to stay home, either. Migration from all states into New Hampshire dropped 13 percent from 2006 to 2008. New Hampshire had roughly 2,600 more people leave than move in last year, Johnson said. This is a fairly significant drop compared to the first half of the decade when about 5,400 more people came to the state than left it each year.
Johnson attributes this decline to the economic downturn.
"People who normally move from Massachusetts to New Hampshire tend to be in their 30s and 40s and have families," said Johnson. "They are typically homeowners and would have to sell their house to move to New Hampshire. They are essentially frozen in place."
This decline in migration is part of a national trend caused by the collapse of the housing market and the shaky economy, said Johnson. States such as Nevada and Florida, which had a large influx of residents during the last decade, saw a drop in the number of people moving from other states.
"It's really a dramatic change in migration going on now in the United States," said Johnson.
Johnson said the change is also attributed to Maine's aging population. The state has the fourth highest percentage of residents over the age of 65 in the country. This means higher mortality rates and fewer women giving birth. New Hampshire not only has an average number of residents older than 65, but it also has a high number of people in their 30s and 40s. It's at this age when people are commonly having and raising children, Johnson said. The census estimates show that New Hampshire had nearly 43,000 more births than deaths between 2000 and 2009, compared to 12,000 in Maine.
The census data also revealed that Texas was the fastest-growing state, while California remains the most populated. Massachusetts is the 15th largest state and Vermont remains one of the most sparsely populated. Wyoming is the only state with fewer people
NH's population: larger than Maine's, with fewer Mass. transplants
New Hampshire Union Leader
Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009
Census Bureau estimates show that New Hampshire's population has surpassed Maine's for the first time since 1800.
Both states now have about 1.3 million people, separated by a difference of about 6,000.
Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire, said the state's growth is largely due to more people choosing to move to New Hampshire than Maine.
Of New Hampshire's 89,000 new residents over the past decade, about 53,000 moved here. Maine's population grew by 43,000, with 39,000 move-ins.
For years, New Hampshire's growth depended largely on people moving in from Massachusetts, but recently our neighbors to the south have been staying put, Johnson said. From 2006 to 2008, the number of Massachusetts residents moving to the Granite State dropped by 34 percent.
It's not just Bay Staters who are choosing to stay home, either. Migration from all states into New Hampshire dropped 13 percent from 2006 to 2008. New Hampshire had roughly 2,600 more people leave than move in last year, Johnson said. This is a fairly significant drop compared to the first half of the decade when about 5,400 more people came to the state than left it each year.
Johnson attributes this decline to the economic downturn.
"People who normally move from Massachusetts to New Hampshire tend to be in their 30s and 40s and have families," said Johnson. "They are typically homeowners and would have to sell their house to move to New Hampshire. They are essentially frozen in place."
This decline in migration is part of a national trend caused by the collapse of the housing market and the shaky economy, said Johnson. States such as Nevada and Florida, which had a large influx of residents during the last decade, saw a drop in the number of people moving from other states.
"It's really a dramatic change in migration going on now in the United States," said Johnson.
Johnson said the change is also attributed to Maine's aging population. The state has the fourth highest percentage of residents over the age of 65 in the country. This means higher mortality rates and fewer women giving birth. New Hampshire not only has an average number of residents older than 65, but it also has a high number of people in their 30s and 40s. It's at this age when people are commonly having and raising children, Johnson said. The census estimates show that New Hampshire had nearly 43,000 more births than deaths between 2000 and 2009, compared to 12,000 in Maine.
The census data also revealed that Texas was the fastest-growing state, while California remains the most populated. Massachusetts is the 15th largest state and Vermont remains one of the most sparsely populated. Wyoming is the only state with fewer people
Tommy Gun
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Texas has the same problem.
2112
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clayinaustin
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California's fiscal problems have been caused by the voters. They vote FOR more government give-aways, but they vote AGAINST raising taxes.
The voters need to wakeup and be responsible. However, they will probably cry to the Federal government and ask for a bailout!
California's Gov. Schwarzenegger Likely to Seek More Federal Assistance to Cut Deficit
In other words, they want the rest of the country to pay for their excesses.
JupiterSunsation
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I have a place in Ormond by the Sea and it seems to be all old people but then again it is on the beach!
Jupiter actually has about 3,000 Guatemaleans living down by the tracks. The city actually opened a "work center" right next to the police station to give them a place to gather for work rather than roadside. Many trades use them (landscaping, construction, other day labor type jobs) and the city figured if they put them all in one place it would be better for all. The only catch is ITS ILLEGAL! They have protesters every Saturday but "El Sol" has been open for about 3 years. The city cracked down on the landlords regarding the 10 to a room housing that was going on but the population is still here despite that and the fact the work has dried up.
Alcohol fueled crimes seem to be popular in that section of town. They also tend to try to cross 6 lane roads between intersections and sometimes don't make it all the way.
cuda
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One of my freinds of 35+ years lives in Ormond, and another good friend of mine lives on the beach there.
There are more than enough Spanish speaking people here. I'd guess about twice as many as six years ago.
Wrinkleface
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U got that right 4 Michigan Buddy!!!!!
Tommy Gun
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$8 hr is above minimum wage.
Bobcat
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yes, but they take out taxes (and pocket that), and still make 62 bucks an hour off each carpenter, as opposed to paying an american 30 an hour. if they get arrested they go to Krome detention center and get a work visa, because they cannot afford to deport them. If they get hurt on the job you fire them.
