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[Offshoredrillin]

guess you forgot this Cashbrain wrote...

I mean If you think of it it makes sense...and it´s the only fact in this case which isn´t based on assumptions.


I also got misled by the message board wiseguys before and gotta say follow your gut instinct based on real facts.
Cashbrains told it like this and somebody else also From Bens visitor list exactly the same on different forums.

You need to read my posts more carefully. I'm assuming he didnt have anything to do with it, which is why I say don't take a plea deal if you didnt do it...he had a life sentence on the drug charges, he was already in solitary according to cashbrain when they came to him with the murder plea...your point is moot.

 

[MikeyFIN]

You need to read my posts more carefully. I'm assuming he didnt have anything to do with it, which is why I say don't take a plea deal if you didnt do it...he had a life sentence on the drug charges, he was already in solitary according to cashbrain when they came to him with the murder plea...your point is moot.

Well like he said himself he wanted to get out of it and took the plea just to get out, he didn´t care anymore.

A ****ty system isn´t it ?

 

[cashbrain]

My perspective is that we all make mistakes..I wound up getting divorced, but, I guarantee that you couldn't have talked me out of being with her and marrying her. In retrospect, it was the worst decision of my life.

Point being that I think that Ben at that time(he was in his 20"s) felt invincible.
He had money and power. He told me that he went to parties where everyone was smoking pot..judges,lawyers..he knew them all.
Is this different from Miami and other places around he country?..
hardly.
At that time(in the 80's),the awareness or lack of was non-existant.No one gave a damn and it was a cool thing to do. Supply and demand.

I do think that all of these guys thought they were above the law...
obviously,not the case.

Not one of those guys thought they would ever get caught..things were lax then..certainly not today's awareness and standards.

If it wasn't for drugs,188th would most likely never have been what it became. All these guys were dirty..even Aronow.No secret.

 

[MikeyFIN]

All these guys were dirty..even Aronow.No secret.

That was the times and it was global...in the 80´s people went to Ibiza to party and there you could see row after row of powerboats....

So no wonder people are hooked.

Regarding Aronow... a Construction builder from NJ that moves to Florida and lives the first 6 months in a Hotel is a coincidence.... Come on.:dupe::dupe:

 

[Comanche3Six]

They know who they have locked up. He is in for life.

 

[TCEd]

If any of us spent 60 days in solitary confinement with the threat of it being the rest of your life, I'm pretty sure you would agree to almost anything.
He agreed,but, clearly there was no option.
We can sit here and make judgement calls all day,but, I was there and I can tell you..it isn't pretty. Ben was brought into the room in shackles. and was escorted to the bathroom.
It is a horrific way to live...far worse than any of us can imagine

Was this after the attempted helicopter escape ?

 

[phragle]

There's a lot worse places one can be than an american jail....

 

[cashbrain]

They know who they have locked up. He is in for life.

Don't be so sure...

 

[Expensive Date]

Thought about this today while waxing my boat.if Don was still alive would the threads go something like this...............



Picked up my new 39 Top Gun today love the boat she has got 700s and #6 drives.Just curios though the sea trial was a little strange.After 15 min I fell in love with the boat and said I will take it.But the salesman said we had to stay out for a full hour he never would say why.When we got back my wife who had stayed behind was waiting at the dock her hair was all messed up and the buttons on her blouse weren't lined up.I asked her what happened and she said it was windy.I am thinking this is a little strange has this happened to any one else.

 

[DAREDEVIL]

Thought about this today while waxing my boat.if Don was still alive would the threads go something like this...............



Picked up my new 39 Top Gun today love the boat she has got 700s and #6 drives.Just curios though the sea trial was a little strange.After 15 min I fell in love with the boat and said I will take it.But the salesman said we had to stay out for a full hour he never would say why.When we got back my wife who had stayed behind was waiting at the dock her hair was all messed up and the buttons on her blouse weren't lined up.I asked her what happened and she said it was windy.I am thinking this is a little strange has this happened to any one else.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I think thats why he is no longer around.
he did get shot in the di.. , so what does that tell u ?!

 

[cashbrain]

Thought about this today while waxing my boat.if Don was still alive would the threads go something like this...............



Picked up my new 39 Top Gun today love the boat she has got 700s and #6 drives.Just curios though the sea trial was a little strange.After 15 min I fell in love with the boat and said I will take it.But the salesman said we had to stay out for a full hour he never would say why.When we got back my wife who had stayed behind was waiting at the dock her hair was all messed up and the buttons on her blouse weren't lined up.I asked her what happened and she said it was windy.I am thinking this is a little strange has this happened to any one else.

:sifone::rofl:

 

[Comanche3Six]

Don't be so sure...

Cash,
I'm positive! And you are too. But fantasy is fun.......Carry on, we have already burned through a couple of decades with this topic. And until Ben dies in prison, we may as well keep at it. Being a free man on the outside is refreshing, to say the least.
Ed

 

[DollaBill]

My perspective is that we all make mistakes..I wound up getting divorced, but, I guarantee that you couldn't have talked me out of being with her and marrying her. In retrospect, it was the worst decision of my life.

Point being that I think that Ben at that time(he was in his 20"s) felt invincible.
He had money and power. He told me that he went to parties where everyone was smoking pot..judges,lawyers..he knew them all.
Is this different from Miami and other places around he country?..
hardly.
At that time(in the 80's),the awareness or lack of was non-existant.No one gave a damn and it was a cool thing to do. Supply and demand.

I do think that all of these guys thought they were above the law...
obviously,not the case.

Not one of those guys thought they would ever get caught..things were lax then..certainly not today's awareness and standards.

If it wasn't for drugs,188th would most likely never have been what it became. All these guys were dirty..even Aronow.No secret.

Miami and Lauderdale are still the same. It's still the 80's there. I've seen stuff that most would think could only be made up. And, many celeb's etc were doing it.







I was just watching from a safe distance :sifone:

 

[fund razor]

I was just watching from a safe distance :sifone:

That's why I have a long reach.

 

[cashbrain]

Cash,
I'm positive! And you are too. But fantasy is fun.......Carry on, we have already burned through a couple of decades with this topic. And until Ben dies in prison, we may as well keep at it. Being a free man on the outside is refreshing, to say the least.
Ed

There may be specific technicalities that have never been challenged before, not to mention exoneration of Aronow...never know !

 

[DollaBill]

That's why I have a long reach.

LOL Fund. Hope you're hanging in there

 

[phragle]

and I may win the lottery tomorrow too....

 

[OldSchool]

There may be specific technicalities that have never been challenged before, not to mention exoneration of Aronow...never know !

Is Maxine getting ready for another T-Shirt campaign???:rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[JupiterSunsation]

let him out on the conditions I stated. It would be great for ratings for CBS's upcoming schedule

only if he races a step bottom boat with no instruction! :26:

Bet he would be really shocked/confused then!

 

[cashbrain]

:26::26::26::26::26::26::26:

is maxine getting ready for another t-shirt campaign???:rofl::rofl::rofl: