DaveP
Charter Member
Odd use????????????
It's called......
1) Doing something good (raising money for a charity)
2) Creating an excellent public relations tool
Whats wrong with promoting your organizations good deeds?
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Odd use????????????
It's called......
1) Doing something good (raising money for a charity)
2) Creating an excellent public relations tool
Whats wrong with promoting your organizations good deeds?
DaveP
Charter Member
Have you been to the Lake George Event? Are you sure they run 20 boats abreast up the Lake?
Before you start throwing around the "ignorant" word I would get EDUCATED on how the event is run.
DaveP
Charter Member
If we followed that school of thought the French would be speaking German and the swastika would be on France's flag :sifone:
Dude! Sweet!
Charter Member
It's my recollection that there are a signrificant number of "offshore style" boats that call Lake George home. Saris Racing engines and the performance shop that's affiliated with them for example. I believe there are also several 24 and 28 Panteras that live on or near the lake.
Gladhe8er
Charter Member
Yes this is true. There are still some high performance guys up there. Most run mufflers and watch the speed though. Performance Marine/Saris Racing were one of the main sponsors for this event. The north end of the lake is less populated and less travelled so there is less ball busting going on up there. It's bad overall though. I have been on 3 boats kicked off the lake and fined for noise...and we were idling each time!
Gladhe8er
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Donzi, Cigarrette, Fountain, Baja, Skater, and PowerPlay also come to mind. Most are running mufflers which is no doubt the way to go. I'm all for following the local laws (speed limit, no wake zones) and I know the organizers were too! And honestly, this run is such a great time because of the people in attendance and the huge diversity in the type of boat you see. I think we would have seen everything from 18 Ft Donzi's to a full canopy MTI and everything inbetween!!!
I am just disappointed.
Bobcat
Founding Member
back in 2002 the city of key West was trying to run the motorcycle poker run(12 million in revenue) out of town with all kinds of new noise laws and parking tickets, then we had four hurricanes in 2004 and four more in 2005, the "other" much sought after tourists quit coming....... now the M/C poker run is welcome with open arms , I think they all got hand jobs in this years run ( I'm glad I don't work for the city:ack2
on the same thought I was wondering if a lot of the complainers would not mind so much if some of the establishments catering to the poker would go out of business also.
on the same thought I was wondering if a lot of the complainers would not mind so much if some of the establishments catering to the poker would go out of business also.
T2x
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In years past I have seen crowds on a beach at numerous race sites enjoying the sun and sand while being unknowingly counted as "spectators and fans". Typically these people would have been there anyway....even without a race. I am interested in the spectator fleet comment. There have been many incidences where people have que'ed up to watch a race in their boats and actually were there only for that reason. I have no problem with a count of 30,000 (including spectator boats)...... but how many of the boats returned to their home harbors afterward and never spent a nickle locally?
If the event actually took in that kind of revenue ($6 million) for the local merchants..... John needs to raise his price next year.
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Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
He was referring to this I'm sure. That's the way I read it also.
Dude! Sweet!
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So the lake is mostly just reserved for drowning elderly tourists in clapped out tour boats these days?
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I can read and understand english and after reading the above, as well as your advice note to the organizers I understand your position.
But there is a vast difference between giving to charity for the right reason as opposed to giving to charity to make yourself look good and/or to get accomadations that you wouldnt otherwise recieve.
Everyone knows who you are and what you do. Its the way you worded it.
Re your buddy there that says he's wasting his time. Tell him I didnt invite him into the conversation, but since he brought up other poker runs I have had a problem with we might as well get into it.
The value of all our boats and the financial sustainability of those people that earn their living from our sport rely on all of us using our boats as much as possible.
The existence of poker runs is very important to all that math.
So if poker runs being well run and staying strong is important to us all it follows that it upsets me to see event organizers getting into pizzing contests with authorities for no reason.
It also bothers me to see PRA advertising drag racing at the 1000 islands event when its common knowledge that the police dont even want the poker run there at all. At the drivers meeting in 2008 the head policeman walked to the front of the room and said straight out that they did not want us there.
In 2009 PRA announces drag racing. For years it has been said loud and clear we are not racing in these public waters.
I ***** in support of the math, so your friend understands.
Regarding your comment about going someplace uninvited and if not the french flag would have a swastika, I agree. Thanks for joining us and Britain who were already there.
$6m
I don't get it...is $6 million really that inconceivable?...Really?
When I go see a race, I'll typically spend an average of 200 bucks a night on hotel, and easily 150 bucks a day eating, drinking, etc., and If I drive, I'll even fill up before I leave. With just lodging and food/drink, I'll spend 1000-1200 bucks on a weekend trip (Fri/Sat/Sun).
$6M / 1000 = 6000
Is is that hard to believe that ~6000 people came for the weekend, give or take?
Now, if you say 30,000 showed up, and even if only 10,000 did at least one night in town, that figure becomes pretty realistic.
I don't get it...is $6 million really that inconceivable?...Really?
When I go see a race, I'll typically spend an average of 200 bucks a night on hotel, and easily 150 bucks a day eating, drinking, etc., and If I drive, I'll even fill up before I leave. With just lodging and food/drink, I'll spend 1000-1200 bucks on a weekend trip (Fri/Sat/Sun).
$6M / 1000 = 6000
Is is that hard to believe that ~6000 people came for the weekend, give or take?
Now, if you say 30,000 showed up, and even if only 10,000 did at least one night in town, that figure becomes pretty realistic.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Congrats. What did your promotion group estimate the crowd at? It was certainly well watched...
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
We spent over that in LOTO this weekend...
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I forgot about that.....:ack2:
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I must admit I am considering River's point very closely. For instance, up here. Grand HAven is making it difficult on performance boaters. Some of the guys have moved their boats to other places such as here in Holland, even though they are based out of Grand Haven.
If we were to push for another run or race, would a place like Michigan City where the SBI race was well received by the city and its mangement be the place to go instead of battling the current regime in Grand Haven?????? You'd be welcomed, appreciated, raise more money for charity, get better participation, attract better publicity, etc., etc.
Does that possibly serve our interests better for the long run??????
Or, do we push back, fight for our rights, and attract possible bad publicity to be used against us elsewhere. It is a very legit discussion .....
If we were to push for another run or race, would a place like Michigan City where the SBI race was well received by the city and its mangement be the place to go instead of battling the current regime in Grand Haven?????? You'd be welcomed, appreciated, raise more money for charity, get better participation, attract better publicity, etc., etc.
Does that possibly serve our interests better for the long run??????
Or, do we push back, fight for our rights, and attract possible bad publicity to be used against us elsewhere. It is a very legit discussion .....
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