everyone please take a min out of your day...

stecz20

PROUD
one of our local lake george runs was kabashed.... take a min and write a letter tell mr young what you think about him taking away from the local shop owners in these wondeful times.....

heres an example of what has been written..... please be kind but to the point.... thanks guys....


To:'info@lgpc.state.ny.us'
Cc: 'emanuel@poststar.com'; 'tingley@poststar.com'; 'info@lakegeorgechamber.com'; 'permits@lgpc.state.ny.us'; 'mpwhite@lgpc.state.ny.us'; 'opdir@lgpc.state.ny.us'; 'pkranger@lgpc.state.ny.us'; 'info@fortwilliamhenry.com'; 'lakegeorgemirror@gmail.com'; 'lgvmayor@nycap.rr.com'; 'apmonlg@nycap.rr.com'; 'diamondcovecotgs@aol.com'; 'reserve@thesagamore.com'; 'info@schohariechamber.com'



Bruce E. Young
Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845


Dear Mr. Young:

It is my understanding that the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) has filed a with the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) to revoke the regatta permit for the Poker Run scheduled to take place on Lake George the weekend of October 10th 2009. I can not express enough my disappointed with the decision made by your agency.

We had planned a family trip that weekend to attend and participate in the poker run with three separate boats. My father and mother had planned to run their boat along with my sister and her fiancé who has already purchased a ticket to fly into Albany International Airport for the weekend. My brother was going to do the run in his boat along with his wife and another couple. And finally I was to use my boat along with 3 other crew members on my team. In total we would have had 12 people in my party from out of town, who now feel incredibly let down by your commission’s recent decision.

Aside from the disappointment felt by the members of my party planning to attend, it is the local economy that suffers the most. It is hard for me to put a number on what the 12 members of my party would have injected into the economy (my plan was to stay from Thursday through Monday), but I can assure you that your local business’ would have welcomed our patronage in what is typically a slow time of year.

What is most disappointing is the fact that the organizer(s) and sponsors went through a tremendous amount of trouble to put this event together and, from what I understand, have been more than compliant with the prior requests that your agency has made in order to make this a fun and, most importantly, a safe event. Make no mistake about it, safety is paramount at these events, and with strict rules to follow the speed limit behind a pace boat (as was the case with this event), there is no doubt in my mind that this event would have easily gone of without a hitch as it has in years past.

Make no mistake about it, this event WILL go on! However to the dismay of the local merchants and business owners, it will not be happening on Lake George.

Regards,

Christopher M. Aitkin
__________________
Lucky Duck
 
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heres another example...


Bruce E. Young, Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845

BY EMAIL

Mr. Young,

It is with great regret that I was informed yesterday that your agency had asked to revoke the Regatta Permit issued by the DEC to Poker Run Production LLC for a Poker Run to take place on the Lake weekend of October 10th 2009.

Our team and I have participated in most of these kinds of runs and their different incarnations on Lake George for the past seven years. We participate in multiple Poker Runs around the country every year and have a great time doing so.

Your decision will not affect our enjoyment of these events since I will more than likely send my boat and my crew in another location for that weekend.

A Poker Run weekend as such represents on my end expenses conservatively evaluated at $4,000 to $5,000 of which I can assure you at least 80% goes to the local establishments, namely hotels, restaurants, marinas, souvenir shops & many other local entities.

Seems your actions has deprived the local community of easily $250,000 to $350,000 in spending for what is known as a very calm weekend in your area I have been told. This conservative guess is from our group attending passed events on Lake George where easily 70-80 boats have been present from out of town.

Your area hosts Americade and a national car shows why are you singling out boaters? In these economic times I fail to see the wisdom in your Commission's decision but I am sure you have an ulterior motive that all the businesses who will suffer these losses will greatly appreciate.

As for us rest assure we will go somewhere else far from Lake George and spend those moneys anyway trying to help the country get back on track economically.

Have a great weekend on your sailboat.

Respectfully,

G.L. Harvie, President
Limestone Development LLC, Burlington, VT
 
I'd also send a copy to the Lake George chamber of commerce. They may have a strong opinion regarding the cancellation.
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:nopity:They suck it was a nice run call local Media!!Make sure they are not a blow boater!!Live and let live that run does not hurt anybody it helps locals out on normally slow time of year!:beatdeadhorse5:
 
Bruce E. Young
Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845


Dear Mr. Young:


I can understand your concern with any event that involves such a flamer as Stecz. However, he means no harm. He's gotten in touch with his inner self (as well as the inner self of numerous like him) and it has made such a difference in his life.



Forget the revenue that this event would bring to your area in an otherwise stagnant economic time, you should be more concerned with the added frustration that you have caused Mr. Stecz. I sincerely hope that you arent a farmer or owner of any accessible small animals. I shiver to think of the possible molestation that you have opened them up to.


Frankie McSwain
Concerned Citizen
 
I sent a letter to the post star.I could not copy and past it for some reason I used the letter to the editors section.Should be up in a few days.
There is a article about it on there website the Mayor hopes we can come next year.........Uhhhh NO
 
Bruce E. Young
Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845


Dear Mr. Young:


I can understand your concern with any event that involves such a flamer as Stecz. However, he means no harm. He's gotten in touch with his inner self (as well as the inner self of numerous like him) and it has made such a difference in his life.



Forget the revenue that this event would bring to your area in an otherwise stagnant economic time, you should be more concerned with the added frustration that you have caused Mr. Stecz. I sincerely hope that you arent a farmer or owner of any accessible small animals. I shiver to think of the possible molestation that you have opened them up to.


Frankie McSwain
Concerned Citizen

Thanks Frankie. As usual I can see that you support the cause:sifone:
 
Bruce E. Young
Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845


Dear Mr. Young:

It is my understanding that the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) has filed a with the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) to revoke the regatta permit for the Poker Run scheduled to take place on Lake George the weekend of October 10th 2009. I can not express enough my disappointed with the decision made by your agency. We had planned for a great trip that weekend to attend and participate in the poker run.

Aside from the disappointment felt by all of the attendees, it is the local economy that suffers the most. It is hard for me to put a number on what the group would have injected into the economy, but I can assure you that your local business’ would have welcomed our patronage in what is typically a slow time of year.

What is most disappointing is the fact that the organizer(s) and sponsors went through a tremendous amount of trouble to put this event together and, from what I understand, have been more than compliant with the prior requests that your agency has made in order to make this a fun and, most importantly, a safe event. Make no mistake about it, safety is paramount at these events, and with strict rules to follow the speed limit behind a pace boat (as was the case with this event), there is no doubt in my mind that this event would have easily gone of without a hitch as it has in years past.

Make no mistake about it, this event WILL go on! However to the dismay of the local merchants and business owners, it will not be happening on Lake George.

Regards,
Best Regards,
Dave Patnaude
President
NJ Performance Powerboat Club
njppc@aol.com
www.njppc.com
 
Bruce E. Young
Chairman
Lake George Park Commission
75 Fort George Road, PO Box 749
Lake George, New York 12845


Dear Mr. Young:

It is my understanding that the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) has filed a with the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) to revoke the regatta permit for the Poker Run scheduled to take place on Lake George the weekend of October 10th 2009. I can not express enough my disappointed with the decision made by your agency. We had planned for a great trip that weekend to attend and participate in the poker run.

Aside from the disappointment felt by all of the attendees, it is the local economy that suffers the most. It is hard for me to put a number on what the group would have injected into the economy, but I can assure you that your local business’ would have welcomed our patronage in what is typically a slow time of year.

What is most disappointing is the fact that the organizer(s) and sponsors went through a tremendous amount of trouble to put this event together and, from what I understand, have been more than compliant with the prior requests that your agency has made in order to make this a fun and, most importantly, a safe event. Make no mistake about it, safety is paramount at these events, and with strict rules to follow the speed limit behind a pace boat (as was the case with this event), there is no doubt in my mind that this event would have easily gone of without a hitch as it has in years past.

Make no mistake about it, this event WILL go on! However to the dismay of the local merchants and business owners, it will not be happening on Lake George.

Regards,
Best Regards,
Dave Patnaude
President
NJ Performance Powerboat Club
njppc@aol.com
www.njppc.com


Well put Dave. Thanks
 
The article link that Gladhe8er posted. The article allows comments. So far 2 for 2 against the revocation of the permit.
 
It probably would not have been a very good one with a 45 mph speed limit and full noise restrictions......

We've kinda gone through the same thing here in Grand Haven. It used to be a high-performance boaters must go to destination. Now it's a stay away from or you'll get hassled destination.....
 
Guys..............just some advice.

Find a great charity to tie the event with (Make a Wish, a Children's Hospital, etc...) and I bet you will not get your permit turned down next year.

Politicians and State lackeys don't like read in the paper "State Parks Department cancels fundraiser for __________ Foundation!"

Shore Dreams For Kids helps us buy alot of credibility with everyone here in NJ. It helps demonstrate that we are not the "Hells Angels" of the water that they originally thought we were.
 
Guys..............just some advice.

Find a great charity to tie the event with (Make a Wish, a Children's Hospital, etc...) and I bet you will not get your permit turned down next year.

Politicians and State lackeys don't like read in the paper "State Parks Department cancels fundraiser for __________ Foundation!"

Shore Dreams For Kids helps us buy alot of credibility with everyone here in NJ. It helps demonstrate that we are not the "Hells Angels" of the water that they originally thought we were.

Thats an odd use to put your charity relationship to.

How about the poker run should never have been pursued on that small lake in the first place. I'm sure it makes no difference to the public that the boat wash and heavy traffic and 40 boats exceeding the speed limit that they live with all year is A-OK because some money is going to a charity.

I dont understand how the organizer was collecting entry fees and having people making hotel reservations when they didnt even have final permission to hold the event.

Given that the speed limit is 45 mph , how much of an increase would an astute person guess they might get, 70mph???

Who wants to go on a poker run with that limit? Especially knowing you had to fight for it all summer. As if the police werent going to be all over everyone all day.

Venue should have been abandon after the first negative letter.

This topic is putting a spotlight on the topic and is precedent setting in NY.

Bad business.
 
I have never really thought of it that way.

If you have to fight too hard for an event, puts a bad spotlight on similar events everywhere?

I hate it when you guys make me think too hard......:sifone:
 
Guys..............just some advice.

Find a great charity to tie the event with (Make a Wish, a Children's Hospital, etc...) and I bet you will not get your permit turned down next year.

Politicians and State lackeys don't like read in the paper "State Parks Department cancels fundraiser for __________ Foundation!"

Shore Dreams For Kids helps us buy alot of credibility with everyone here in NJ. It helps demonstrate that we are not the "Hells Angels" of the water that they originally thought we were.

Dave has always been the finest organizer of events that I have come to know!!!! His advice should be well taken!! Anyway good luck next year and I hope it goes off without all the beauracratic bull$h!t.....:cuss::cuss::cuss:

Dave I hijacked your verbage and added some of my own that I sent to them via email.....

Sean
 
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