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OldSchool said:
Welcome back Jay!!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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I agree....

Jay, you can't honestly believe that it isn't the exact same talent that has made Ex Pres Clinton very popular with the opposite leaners.....


"Here's an email from a Sullivan reader that sums up a part of it

Part of Sarah Palin's irresistible appeal to her fundamentalist base is her ability to look at the camera with utter conviction and declare black to be white."
 
I can't believe you think either one of them fit the sociopath criteria....

The American Psychiatric Association estimates that over 3% of males in our society are sociopaths (Franzoi 2000).

Sociopaths are extremely selfish and egocentric, leaving them only to care about themselves, their needs and desires.

A sociopath warps those that he/she comes into contact with into objects that they can potentially use to fulfill a goal or sense of gratification.

Their goals are generally sexually in nature (www.wright.edu). They will not stop until they get the pleasure and gratification they desire.
 
jayboat said:
Here's an email from a Sullivan reader that sums up a part of it (for fundy)

Part of Sarah Palin's irresistible appeal to her fundamentalist base is her ability to look at the camera with utter conviction and declare black to be white.

The ability to lie well is a valuable part of the fundamentalist psychology. My son isn't gay, he just hasn't found the right woman! Those rocks aren't 50 million years old, they just look like it as a test of our faith! My sexless marriage isn't foundering, it is filled with God's spirit! The minister isn't molesting little Maria, they're just very close! It isn't torture, it is being tough on terrorists!

Fundamentalists can recognize a truly audacious and talented liar from miles away. Instead of running the other way, as you might expect, they gather around the powerful liar, for they know that their own lies will be respected and protected by a leader who understands the paramount importance of preserving their whole system of denial.
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Gosh Jay. Thanks for the dedication. Like Craig says.... welcome back. :seeya:
 
Ratickle said:
I can't believe you think either one of them fit the sociopath criteria....

The American Psychiatric Association estimates that over 3% of males in our society are sociopaths (Franzoi 2000).

Sociopaths are extremely selfish and egocentric, leaving them only to care about themselves, their needs and desires.

A sociopath warps those that he/she comes into contact with into objects that they can potentially use to fulfill a goal or sense of gratification.

Their goals are generally sexually in nature (www.wright.edu). They will not stop until they get the pleasure and gratification they desire.
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There are more sociopaths and not all are sexually motivated. Some are power motivated and use manipulation much more than sex. The detachment caused by the decrease of personal contact and erosion of direct social relation is contributing to a system societal increase in sociopathic tendencies.
 
fund razor said:
There are more sociopaths and not all are sexually motivated. Some are power motivated and use manipulation much more than sex. The detachment caused by the diminishing of personal contact and direct social relation is contributing to a system societal increase in sociopathic tendencies.
-me
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:sifone:

You're not supposed to help Jay. He does fine on his own.....:)
 
Ratickle said:
I agree....

Jay, you can't honestly believe that it isn't the exact same talent that has made Ex Pres Clinton very popular with the opposite leaners.....


"Here's an email from a Sullivan reader that sums up a part of it

Part of Sarah Palin's irresistible appeal to her fundamentalist base is her ability to look at the camera with utter conviction and declare black to be white."
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Come on, man. Clinton was doin' it specifically tryin to get out of a 'situation', palin tells her stupid lies for no apparent reason. (read the damn vanity fair article, willya?)

he probly woulda got away with it, too, had it not been for linda tripp. (see Sanford, Mark.)
 
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jayboat said:
Don't get too happy, either of ya. :cuss:

I've had enough of this 'dialog' in one day on this one thread to last me for a while. :grouphug:
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I'll say the same thing I always say.

Get past the person, look at the policies and issues. There is a reason Franks was appointed by Obama to head an area he caused a lot of the issues in and bilked for millions to his own personal coffers. Either Obama owed him, or someone else Obama owed told him too. The guy should have been put in jail.

As far as Palin goes, if she is on the next ticket, they'll lose again.

What I'm really concerned with. What policy changes and improvements have we made to get us out of this mess? My observasion, we've made it worse by far.
 
Expensive Date said:
What started this thread Goldman Sachs has more control over the economy than any president ever will.
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Expensive Date said:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/June-...tml?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Not good
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Correct. The question for the experts though, since the government has seized the tobacco industry, the automotive industry, the credit industry, the banking industry, already has the military/defense industry, and is working oin the health care industry. Will they then have the control they want? Or will they seize the transportation industry when YRC goes under in a couple months???

And many see it extending into 2013 before any increase is seen.
 
I like Sarah Palin. But I don't want her to be president.

I think many people like Sarah Palin because of her appearance, demeanor and personality. I mean, she'd be a great next-door neighbor or pal for my wife.

But unfortunately, we elect presidents on TV now. And they need to have that TV star quality. Can you imagine Abraham Lincoln being elected president today?

More than a few major recording artists lost their careers when MTV hit the airwaves- people saw them, found out they had a face for radio and stopped listening. If I no longer want to hear your music, how likely am I to want you running my country?
 
Palin has a huge hold on the hard right conservatives that McCain had virtually no traction with. She energized that part and that energy brought SOME of the middling Pubbies up too. It was a calculation on his people's part that ended up causing issues because they did not do their homework and did not have any idea how viscerally the press would attack her. If she does not at least have a place at the table with the Reps. she could cause huge problems down the road. If they learn that it is a loser to be Dem lite and take real conservative principles back to the people like the Contract for America did, they will do just fine, and she can still have a place in the party.
 
Ted said:
Palin has a huge hold on the hard right conservatives that McCain had virtually no traction with. She energized that part and that energy brought SOME of the middling Pubbies up too. It was a calculation on his people's part that ended up causing issues because they did not do their homework and did not have any idea how viscerally the press would attack her. If she does not at least have a place at the table with the Reps. she could cause huge problems down the road. If they learn that it is a loser to be Dem lite and take real conservative principles back to the people like the Contract for America did, they will do just fine, and she can still have a place in the party.
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I would agree with all this, what I'm seeing and I think we all are, is that the free thinkers seem to becoming more outspoken and are pulling away from the parties and trying to do whats right, hopefully on both sides it will make congress listen before we fall apart.

I also agree with what Tommy posted about the spend spend of the Gov. if they didn't learn anything from this housing bubble and all the Madoff/bankers stealing is that we cant prop up the US on credit. I hope this administration figures it out before it is too late.
 
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