Tragedy in Jax 5 killed .....

i know it was "reggea sunday" down in st augustine at the conch house yesturday. this is a huge event with lots of boozing. i hope that wasnt a factor, either way its truly a sad day, RIP
 
It looks like a Crownline or a Caravelle. Some of the comments on the news website point toward witnessed speeding. Other comments are such that the victims are teenagers and young 20s.
 
"Investigators are looking at anything that may have caused this," Hill said, including the speed and capacity of the boat, lighting conditions and whether alcohol may have been a factor.
 
I had that exact same boat. It was our ski boat. I always marveled at the fact that the capacity plate said 12 people. I don't remember the total weight, but it would have been 12 very small people. I can't even imagine squeezing that many young adults on it. Great little boat, very shallow draft, 16 degrees deadrise, if I remember right. Ours had a SB-350 mag motor and alpha drive. It would run 48 mph on a good day with a light load and flat water. Did not handle or ride well in any kind of waves. I can see how it would have run right up on the barge. Terrible tragedy.
 
I had a 266 Crownline open bow and I cannot imagine trying to squeeze 14 people on that boat, let alone a 225. Condolences to the friends and families that lost loved ones and hope for a speedy recovery for those injured.
 
Unfortunatly I have feeling the phrase, "hand me another beer" may have been used on that trip.
 
Oshier, 25, said one of the survivors told him that a woman the group picked up at the restaurant was driving the boat, though the boat owner was aboard. He said he was told it came "around" after passing the Palm Valley bridge and the accident happened moments later.

There is no real bend in the area of the accident. That area is a straight-away known by boaters as "the ditch" because the man-made channel narrows.

The boat struck the tug, which was alongside a barge that was helping build a dock for a home under construction off Roscoe Road. Oshier said a friend of his on the boat was alerted about trouble just before the crash.

“He [the survivor] said the lady yelled my friend’s name and he looked up and they were heading right for it,” Oshier said. “He tried to steer away, but it was too late.”



Sounds like driver inexperience. She (the driver) panicked and the owner didn't have time to intervene and steer away or stop.

Sad.........
 
my condolences,i run that route all the time and went by there saturday, i know that area quite well. i run that area rather slow, during the weekends there is a ton of traffic in a 150' width. but later in the day its not that bad. i have talked to some friends about what happened, lots of spectulation. from what i hear they were coming back from a place that has a sunday event and some witnesses say they were drinking. some locals and some visiting. i know the barge that they hit and i cant see how they hit it the way they did, without some type of confusion, overloading, and operater error.
 
Looks like the NTSB's getting involved in this one. I can't think of another time that they got involved with a private boat accident. Is this normal?

National Briefing | South
Florida: Inquiry Into Boat Crash That Killed 5

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 13, 2009

The National Transportation Safety Board has begun an investigation of the power boat accident that killed five people and injured nine on the state’s Atlantic coast. A safety board member, Deborah A. P. Hersman, said there were 14 people in the 22-foot power boat that crashed into the rear of a tug about 7 p.m. Sunday near Palm Valley in St. Johns County, about 25 miles southeast of Jacksonville. Investigators had earlier said 12 people were aboard the boat. Ms. Hersman said that the board did not investigate many boating accidents, but that this case with five deaths and nine injuries met the agency’s criteria for a serious accident that warranted special attention. Six accident victims are being treated at Shands Jacksonville hospital. Two were in critical condition, one was in serious condition and three were in fair condition. The authorities have not said where the other survivors were being treated.
 
I try to think about these events any time I'm getting hassled by the water cops.

There are so many inattentive, incompetent and intoxicated boaters on the water that it's almost unimaginable. Having to deal with it has to be a very trying occupation. To have to fish dead kids out of the water can't be much fun. I know there's good and bad in the profession, like all professions. But I've gotta tell you, just from what I've seen on the water, I'd want to beat some of them over the head with a club.
 
I try to think about these events any time I'm getting hassled by the water cops.

There are so many inattentive, incompetent and intoxicated boaters on the water that it's almost unimaginable. Having to deal with it has to be a very trying occupation. To have to fish dead kids out of the water can't be much fun. I know there's good and bad in the profession, like all professions. But I've gotta tell you, just from what I've seen on the water, I'd want to beat some of them over the head with a club.

I read an article this morning about the first responder's accounts and it wasn't pretty. I didn't post it because it's pretty upsetting. I couldn't imagine having to be there that night. :(
 
I try to think about these events any time I'm getting hassled by the water cops.

There are so many inattentive, incompetent and intoxicated boaters on the water that it's almost unimaginable. Having to deal with it has to be a very trying occupation. To have to fish dead kids out of the water can't be much fun. I know there's good and bad in the profession, like all professions. But I've gotta tell you, just from what I've seen on the water, I'd want to beat some of them over the head with a club.

That's true. The club I used to run poker runs with didn't require lifejackets to be worn, that made me be the bad guy, because I told all passengers they could either wear a lifejacket, or stay on the dock. Either choice was fine by me.
 
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