I agree if your going to have a cool new OL why not put at least a 600 or 700 in it.
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Smarty
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Don't let these know-it-alls bust your balls. Keep posting. 90 mph with Merc 525 and a cabin for a 28' would be very impressive, possible yes, but I also have my reservations about the 90 mph stated claim for a boat thas not even been built yet that is a a design on the computer; I base my doubt on seing 29' Activator pleasure boat version run about 85-86 mph with this package, and a 29' Activator with a 525 hp is one strong boat that can drive across wakes at that speed. I realize two different designs, OL 28' will probably be lighter than the comparable Activator, but 90 mph is a tall order. That would be one dialed in 28' pleasure boat.
Would I want to bet the OL guys that they won't get 90 mph, no. I would probably lose that bet. If every 28' OL off the line with a cabin, full pleasure boat runs 90 mph, then they definitely have something, and for $150K that would be a real nice package. Stop the bullsh*ting, build it, run it, dial it in, sell it to the public, it will be an awesome boat if it runs as claimed.
Team Tsunami
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The boat is still in design stages and will be started soon. If you look in the past Outerlimits has backed up all their claims and more so its not really BS!! No offense, but none of these other manufactuers have the technology or bottom designs that Outerlimits puts into their hulls. If anyone can make a boat go fast and run well its Outerlimits.
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stainless
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+1! :cheers2:
PM203
Charter Member
Like the 39 Quattro that was supposed to run 100 with 525,s? On the other hand, I believe this boat will do 90.
Team Tsunami
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I believe they did get one or two run 100 with 525's, but 97-98 everyday isnt too shabby! The 39 GTX did though.
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Team Tsunami
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Smarty
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You mean 98 everyday with Merc 600's and labbed Maximus props, it ran 101 mph with the Herring props. The 39' Quatro was a 101 mph boat according to the Mercruiser Smartcraft tattle-tale screen display on a 39' Quatro I saw at the Atlantic City, NJ boat show, this was a few years back that Trenton Marine had on display, with the Herring props, and was a few mph slower with the Maximus props but performed better overall according per the TMC guys at the show. That is factual information from the gauges, not my opinion.
I do think with a Herring prop, this 28' dialed-in (elevated X-Dimension), will do 90 mph. I am not an elite boater that can afford $4000+ propellers, I wonder how fast the 28' will be with a stock or labbed Bravo or Maximus prop? But then again, if you can afford an OL you can afford the extra for a high end prop. So that point is moot.
It really doesn't matter if this boat runs 85 mph or 95 mph, it will be built right, look nice, and as long as you can cross other boat wakes at full throttle and not have to fear for your safety that is what matters most (to me). Stability at speed, not total mph on flat-glass like water, stability at WOT crossing wakes is the selling feature to me that matters-handling. Top end total speed will vary, and that is OK. I can live with that, and understand that, no big deal.
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ILMORdude
Sponsor / Charter Member
A nice 115!
My jaw dropped when I heard that.
GENERAL LEE
Founding Member - E Dock
I apologize Smarty, but your post is sort of all over the place the way it reads to me? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from :cheers2::
It would be strange for someone to buy a brand new Outerlimits, especially one with a single engine, and not run the best prop available on it? That would be like running 87 octane fuel in a brand new Enzo Ferrari
To their customers, it absolutely matters if the boat runs 85, or 95mph. "Everyone" builds an 85mph Vee bottom, and Outerlimits & their customers definitely do not aim to be like "everyone"
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On safety & stability: This is Outerlimits, who has built their reputation around building the fastest, best handling, and best quality Vee bottom they can possibly produce. Unless their typical customers' likes & dislikes have changed drastically, every last mph will matter to them. Their customers already know they are buying a brand that designs their boats to run stable & safe at high speeds, in a variety of conditions. Knowing that, they'll want it to run as fast as possible, while keeping the quality & handling equally as impressive at the same time.
Running through cruiser wakes wide open & trimmed out, in a 28ft SINGLE engine vee at 90+mph..... just isn't something that ANY builder can be expected to guarantee your safety with 100% of the time. Like with their other boats, OL will likely include the Tres Martin course, maybe some cool lifeline jackets, and a kill switch....but it's up to the driver to be responsible, and hopefully they somehow are, if they're going to be driving like that all of the time
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If the top speed varies slightly, due to the kind of prop the owner runs, that's not going to be an issue to anyone that understands different setups. If the top speed were to vary because the hull design is inconsistent, that would be an issue. If the boats were to somehow vary between 85-95, that will be a major issue to most buyers, and especially to Outerlimits. Even more so being a vee bottom, where a 10mph difference is a world apart.
I definitely think the boat will run 90, handle great, look great, and if priced aggressively, should be popular.
It would be strange for someone to buy a brand new Outerlimits, especially one with a single engine, and not run the best prop available on it? That would be like running 87 octane fuel in a brand new Enzo Ferrari
To their customers, it absolutely matters if the boat runs 85, or 95mph. "Everyone" builds an 85mph Vee bottom, and Outerlimits & their customers definitely do not aim to be like "everyone"
. On safety & stability: This is Outerlimits, who has built their reputation around building the fastest, best handling, and best quality Vee bottom they can possibly produce. Unless their typical customers' likes & dislikes have changed drastically, every last mph will matter to them. Their customers already know they are buying a brand that designs their boats to run stable & safe at high speeds, in a variety of conditions. Knowing that, they'll want it to run as fast as possible, while keeping the quality & handling equally as impressive at the same time.
Running through cruiser wakes wide open & trimmed out, in a 28ft SINGLE engine vee at 90+mph..... just isn't something that ANY builder can be expected to guarantee your safety with 100% of the time. Like with their other boats, OL will likely include the Tres Martin course, maybe some cool lifeline jackets, and a kill switch....but it's up to the driver to be responsible, and hopefully they somehow are, if they're going to be driving like that all of the time
. If the top speed varies slightly, due to the kind of prop the owner runs, that's not going to be an issue to anyone that understands different setups. If the top speed were to vary because the hull design is inconsistent, that would be an issue. If the boats were to somehow vary between 85-95, that will be a major issue to most buyers, and especially to Outerlimits. Even more so being a vee bottom, where a 10mph difference is a world apart.
I definitely think the boat will run 90, handle great, look great, and if priced aggressively, should be popular.
DollaBill
New member
I may be wrong, but half of the reason for being here is to learn about new things and listen to people who are "in the know". So, I guess if you want to call guys with experience know-it alls... thats cool
MarylandMark
Charter Member
Deep breath every one....
I hate forums that "newbies" and/or low posters are a'skeered to post on because the cliques attack any one that isn't in their clique. For an example- search sunk Bertram South Carolina and look at all the guys in the know that they ran off by being douche bags.
Not pointing this post in any ones particular direction; just kind of putting it out there and if you have a guilty conscience after reading it, your post may be one that I caused me to type this.
Cheers queers and it's all good! :cheers2:
I hate forums that "newbies" and/or low posters are a'skeered to post on because the cliques attack any one that isn't in their clique. For an example- search sunk Bertram South Carolina and look at all the guys in the know that they ran off by being douche bags.
Not pointing this post in any ones particular direction; just kind of putting it out there and if you have a guilty conscience after reading it, your post may be one that I caused me to type this.
Cheers queers and it's all good! :cheers2:
Team Tsunami
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Smarty, are you serious!!?? No offense but do everyone a favor and stop posting about Outerlimits when you dont really know what your talking about when it comes to their boats.
Team Tsunami
New member
I apologize Smarty, but your post is sort of all over the place the way it reads to me? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from :cheers2::
It would be strange for someone to buy a brand new Outerlimits, especially one with a single engine, and not run the best prop available on it? That would be like running 87 octane fuel in a brand new Enzo Ferrari
To their customers, it absolutely matters if the boat runs 85, or 95mph. "Everyone" builds an 85mph Vee bottom, and Outerlimits & their customers definitely do not aim to be like "everyone"
On safety & stability: This is Outerlimits, who has built their reputation around building the fastest, best handling, and best quality Vee bottom they can possibly produce. Unless their typical customers' likes & dislikes have changed drastically, every last mph will matter to them. Their customers already know they are buying a brand that designs their boats to run stable & safe at high speeds, in a variety of conditions. Knowing that, they'll want it to run as fast as possible, while keeping the quality & handling equally as impressive at the same time.
Running through cruiser wakes wide open & trimmed out, in a 28ft SINGLE engine vee at 90+mph..... just isn't something that ANY builder can be expected to guarantee your safety with 100% of the time. Like with their other boats, OL will likely include the Tres Martin course, maybe some cool lifeline jackets, and a kill switch....but it's up to the driver to be responsible, and hopefully they somehow are, if they're going to be driving like that all of the time
If the top speed varies slightly, due to the kind of prop the owner runs, that's not going to be an issue to anyone that understands different setups. If the top speed were to vary because the hull design is inconsistent, that would be an issue. If the boats were to somehow vary between 85-95, that will be a major issue to most buyers, and especially to Outerlimits. Even more so being a vee bottom, where a 10mph difference is a world apart.
I definitely think the boat will run 90, handle great, look great, and if priced aggressively, should be popular.
Good post BLEE!
Smarty
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I agree, I will never ever post about Outerlimits again. No bullsh*t, I won't. I don't think you know as much as you think you do, so settle down. I am not getting into a internet pissing contest with you. Good luck with your product.
Everyone a favor? Or you a favor. I will do you the favor since you asked so politely. I will stick with what I know, I cannot afford a new OL. I am not new to this sport, so I am knowledgeable, PS and somewhat educated too (degrees: BS, almost done MBA, and a JD) so I was not born yesterday or did not just fall off of the turnip truck either.
I only asked a valid question in an earlier post about design, and I am now responding to General Lee, so I am not just posting for arguement sake, but in response to what was asked.
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GENERAL LEE
Founding Member - E Dock
Nooo....., you're definitely the only one that brought that up, lol.
I did however, miss who said they are THE safest boat on the water?
I tried to explain to you, that I was simply confused by your earlier post, even inserting a smiley, just to make sure you knew I wasn't trying to be rude at ALL. Since you don't read well, and are easily offended, I won't ask for clarification in the future, when you have already told us that you "are not an elite boater", yet you negatively label those that have more experience than a "non-elite" boater like yourself, "know it alls". Clearly, I am the only one confused by this, so I'll just "live with what I asked for", facts are facts afterall
Smarty
New member
Nooo....., you're definitely the only one that brought that up, lol.
I did however, miss who said they are THE safest boat on the water?
I tried to explain to you, that I was simply confused by your earlier post, even inserting a smiley, just to make sure you knew I wasn't trying to be rude at ALL. Since you don't read well, and are easily offended, I won't ask for clarification in the future, when you have already told us that you "are not an elite boater", yet you negatively label those that have more experience than a "non-elite" boater like yourself, "know it alls". Clearly, I am the only one confused by this, so I'll just "live with what I asked for", facts are facts afterall
I am sorry General Lee, the paragraph started with the words safety and stability, that is why I went with the safety route. I will not post on this subject any further as promised to Team Tsunami. I did not wish to offend you or anyone else. I deleted the post as so I would not hurt feelings or offend others.
GENERAL LEE
Founding Member - E Dock
That's cool. It's not that I'm in some fan club, or that I can't look at both sides of an opinion objectively. I didn't think my post was an over the top, one sided view of Outerlimits & their boats, and I definitely wasn't trying to attack you at all. I tried to explain that as clear as I could to you beforehand.
You don't have to stop posting about the boat, or even questioning aspects of it. I just think you're taking SOME of the posts the wrong way, when they aren't intended to be taken negatively. :cheers2:
