fund razor
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No idea. Not on facebook. I was just guessing, because if the youngsters can break Bud Light, they can break Cigarette.
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fund razor
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Tracked it down. Apparently, the kids in charge of Cig were not very welcoming to show attendees, were gathering ID info, and generally didn't know who the Official Offshore Royalty was when they stopped by. And last year their speaker was too loud.
When I was at the Miami Boat Show a few years ago, Skater had Gene Hackman running around introducing people to icons. That was pretty cool. Not sure why Hackman. Seemed like Tony knew him. I got a photo with him and Reggie, I think.
Super old guys throw good boat shows. :sifone:
Bamm? :leaving:
When I was at the Miami Boat Show a few years ago, Skater had Gene Hackman running around introducing people to icons. That was pretty cool. Not sure why Hackman. Seemed like Tony knew him. I got a photo with him and Reggie, I think.
Super old guys throw good boat shows. :sifone:
Bamm? :leaving:
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Ratickle
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It was odd. Bobcat and I went in together, I registered.
Even with out Media Credentials, they would not let us enter without me registering and telling them how soon I would be looking to buy a boat.
And they had no setup to scan my creds like everyone else did.
I was surprised. But, I've gotten several emails from them already.
Even with out Media Credentials, they would not let us enter without me registering and telling them how soon I would be looking to buy a boat.
And they had no setup to scan my creds like everyone else did.
I was surprised. But, I've gotten several emails from them already.
fund razor
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It's funny when people have no clue that personal relationships drive high end sales. Brand building is more than trying to get "ups" for pending sales. I have no immediate plans to buy a Skater. But the Skater brand could not occupy a higher place in my mind. If I was to find myself in the position to spend a stupid amount of money on a boat, I would buy a Skater.
Of course, I have owned an Apache. So, a Cigarette would be a step down anyway.
Maybe Gen Z, between avocado toast and latte's, while working from home as graphic designers, will buy new generation Cigarettes.
Of course, I have owned an Apache. So, a Cigarette would be a step down anyway.
Maybe Gen Z, between avocado toast and latte's, while working from home as graphic designers, will buy new generation Cigarettes.
Bobcat
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Mornin!:seeya:
Here's the Story from Yvonne.
Yvonne A. Aleman
February 18 at 8:42 PM ·
I rarely, if ever, make a negative post but this one is well-deserved and a longggg time coming.
I remember when I started going with Greg to the Miami Boat Show 12 years ago, it did not matter whether you owned a boat or not, a Cigarette or not, everyone hung out at the Cigarette display. It was ground zero for our performance boating family. Year after year, it was the corner we all gathered in at the convention center at the start of the day, the end of the day and gaps in between. Every. Single. Day. Of the show week.
Granted... things changed a bit when we all moved to Virginia Key for those 3 years. But when we all went back to the convention center, Cigarette became the least welcoming builder display in the ENTIRE show. And it got worse and worse yearly.
Fast forward to this year and it was the most ridiculous display of not understanding your customer base. I was flat out refused entrance to their display area because I did not hand over my LICENSE and all my personal information. The "gatekeepers" were rude, pretentious and downright clueless about who their buyers are.
Whether we had a Fountain, Cigarette, Active Thunder, Skater, MTI, Concept, DCB, Airship or NO BOAT AT ALL, every single builder that has a display at Miami Boat Show has never been anything but overwhelmingly friendly, inviting, warm, pleasant and just an absolute joy to spend time in their displays catching up and appreciating their creations because - brands aside - we are a boating family and the performance boating community is small.
We currently have 2 DCBs, well I suppose 1.5 DCBs since the new one isn't due till Spring and every builder we spent time with was kind, hugged us, talked like friends - every single one. Except Cigarette. The 4 of us could not so much as make it past their velvet rope to visit their display AT A BOAT SHOW. I hope that Cigarette's ignorance and arrogance costs them their client base. Go buy boats from builders who are kind no matter what you run because the welcoming builders are the true heroes of our small performance boating family.
At times, the ONLY people in the Cigarette display were the merchandise sales people and the actual sales people standing around with their arms crossed. It's a boat show, for the love of Christ, and chances are that your buyers are already in your lead list and not someone providing a DRIVER'S LICENSE to enter a display, which was full of incomplete boats BTW. Know your audience. Know your community. Know your buyers. I hope every other builder surrounding the Cigarette display earned business with their kindness and welcoming nature. And I sincerely hope Cigarette sells for pennies on the dollar to someone who can truly manage the brand appropriately and welcome the very people who made Cigarette, Cigarette. See less
— with Greg Harris.
Here's the Story from Yvonne.
Yvonne A. Aleman
February 18 at 8:42 PM ·
I rarely, if ever, make a negative post but this one is well-deserved and a longggg time coming.
I remember when I started going with Greg to the Miami Boat Show 12 years ago, it did not matter whether you owned a boat or not, a Cigarette or not, everyone hung out at the Cigarette display. It was ground zero for our performance boating family. Year after year, it was the corner we all gathered in at the convention center at the start of the day, the end of the day and gaps in between. Every. Single. Day. Of the show week.
Granted... things changed a bit when we all moved to Virginia Key for those 3 years. But when we all went back to the convention center, Cigarette became the least welcoming builder display in the ENTIRE show. And it got worse and worse yearly.
Fast forward to this year and it was the most ridiculous display of not understanding your customer base. I was flat out refused entrance to their display area because I did not hand over my LICENSE and all my personal information. The "gatekeepers" were rude, pretentious and downright clueless about who their buyers are.
Whether we had a Fountain, Cigarette, Active Thunder, Skater, MTI, Concept, DCB, Airship or NO BOAT AT ALL, every single builder that has a display at Miami Boat Show has never been anything but overwhelmingly friendly, inviting, warm, pleasant and just an absolute joy to spend time in their displays catching up and appreciating their creations because - brands aside - we are a boating family and the performance boating community is small.
We currently have 2 DCBs, well I suppose 1.5 DCBs since the new one isn't due till Spring and every builder we spent time with was kind, hugged us, talked like friends - every single one. Except Cigarette. The 4 of us could not so much as make it past their velvet rope to visit their display AT A BOAT SHOW. I hope that Cigarette's ignorance and arrogance costs them their client base. Go buy boats from builders who are kind no matter what you run because the welcoming builders are the true heroes of our small performance boating family.
At times, the ONLY people in the Cigarette display were the merchandise sales people and the actual sales people standing around with their arms crossed. It's a boat show, for the love of Christ, and chances are that your buyers are already in your lead list and not someone providing a DRIVER'S LICENSE to enter a display, which was full of incomplete boats BTW. Know your audience. Know your community. Know your buyers. I hope every other builder surrounding the Cigarette display earned business with their kindness and welcoming nature. And I sincerely hope Cigarette sells for pennies on the dollar to someone who can truly manage the brand appropriately and welcome the very people who made Cigarette, Cigarette. See less
— with Greg Harris.
fund razor
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Shot 40 on the front yesterday walking. By myself. Was awesome. No OB, no penalty. Got super lucky twice along the water. It was like 63 degrees here and sunny, had to take pullover off. Hitting in short sleeves was welcome.
I hit a three iron 250 yards. Which, for some reason, is about ten yards longer than my best drive yesterday, although they were all in the fairway. Guessing the 3 was lower and had more rollout.
The slice is dead. Long live the draw!
I hit a three iron 250 yards. Which, for some reason, is about ten yards longer than my best drive yesterday, although they were all in the fairway. Guessing the 3 was lower and had more rollout.
The slice is dead. Long live the draw!
in between Cold and Rain....Going to dip the new to Me Kayak in the Water after Work!!!!
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fund razor
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I heard a guy on Little Torch has a deer in a net enclosure. Pass it on.
fund razor
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Can I get your name sir? "Bobcat."
"Dispatch, just confirming we are to see the bobcat about a deer?"
"Dispatch, just confirming we are to see the bobcat about a deer?"
Bobcat
Founding Member
Mornin!:seeya:
The original Target Screen didn't mind the Nerf Golf Balls....But the Real ones tore it to shreds.....That's a triangular Sun Screen...
The original Target Screen didn't mind the Nerf Golf Balls....But the Real ones tore it to shreds.....That's a triangular Sun Screen...
fund razor
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I think Bobcat's caddie should put on a collared shirt.
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