MacGyver
Charter Member
Wow, thats the first time I've seen more then just his face on the nightly news.
Damn, he never missed a meal. Too bad he won't be able to say the same about the workers that'll be out of a job soon.
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Mercury Marine To Close And Move All Production From Fond du Lac, Wisconsin......
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Wow, thats the first time I've seen more then just his face on the nightly news.
Damn, he never missed a meal. Too bad he won't be able to say the same about the workers that'll be out of a job soon.
MarylandMark
Charter Member
LOL- now you know why; he wouldn't fit in the picture.
They didn't want the workers to see what a porker he is- even got the front butt working on his belly.
Getting fat on the backs of their workers- literally. They have more hosts to leach off of so he'll be 10lbs bigger next year right on schedule. Good thing he has union health care to take care of his fat azz.
Rumor is the union wants to meet with the company Tuesday?
MacGyver
Charter Member
Really??? Merc did give them a week or so to have a second vote. I wonder if they are suddenly having second thoughts?
MarylandMark
Charter Member
The proposal, which was presented to the union Aug. 19, is valid until Aug. 29 at midnight. The union leadership chose to accelerate the vote to Aug. 23.
MacGyver
Charter Member
Guess we'll see if the union will hold a second vote by 8/29.
MarylandMark
Charter Member
http://www.iam1947.org/news.htm
Still clipping the laid off members for union dues!! Classic union!
Some of our laid off members are in danger of lapsing on their union membership. It is their responsibility to keep their dues current. Unemployment dues stamps are $2.00 per month. You can pay up to 3 months ahead. ($6.00) total. If you get more then 2 months behind in dues you can lapse your membership.
Still clipping the laid off members for union dues!! Classic union!
Some of our laid off members are in danger of lapsing on their union membership. It is their responsibility to keep their dues current. Unemployment dues stamps are $2.00 per month. You can pay up to 3 months ahead. ($6.00) total. If you get more then 2 months behind in dues you can lapse your membership.
Bobcat
Founding Member
what year ? amf ?
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
That had to be late 70's? Early 80's? Been quite a while. Over 80% of the one line's bikes came back for warranty engine replacement. I'll find it.
Me and my Dad have this discussion all the time about union wages setting the bar for non union wages. What a crock of **** wages are set by the employees if you can get someone to do an equal or better job for less than that is what the wage is if you can't find anyone to do a job for what you are offering than yous have pay more. I used to work construction and not once when we where doing bidding or anything else did we go well how much would this job pay if it was union.
On another note I have a friend who works for a company that builds wal-marts non union they are in IL but do not even get to bid on one job in this great state because of the unions (it has not always been that way) so Wal-Mart spends 8 million more per store for the exact same work that takes more time.
On another note I have a friend who works for a company that builds wal-marts non union they are in IL but do not even get to bid on one job in this great state because of the unions (it has not always been that way) so Wal-Mart spends 8 million more per store for the exact same work that takes more time.
JupiterSunsation
New member
In the last year, Harley had a plant in Pennsylvania that couldn't reach an agreement with the union so they closed the plant and moved operations to another Harley plant.
I bet those workers still haven't replaced their old job at even the lower rate proposed by Harley.....
phragle
Charter Member
I believe this is the free market adjusting itself.... at one time, the company owners were getting rich by selling a product at a fair price, but out of greed they were exploiting the workers... along come unions, things sold at fair price, workers got paid better, owners made a little less, but everyone did ok... things sell for a fair price, unions got greedy and company owners are not making sufficient profit to stay afloat. system is unbalanced.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I have a similar thing up here with a friend who's a mason/brick layer.
When he works on building a school, like right now, he makes an additional $11 per hour vs any other job non-union. The government jobs pay by far the most. And they have to use only union contractors. Probably has nothing to do with getting them elected though. I'm sure it's all honest dealings...:boxing_smiley:
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Unfortunately, it is the free market adjusting to the survival rate of the overseas competitiors who have to meet zero of the same requirements the domestic manufacturers do.
When are the unions gonna wake up and vote these azzes out instead of helping them get elected and watching them take millions from overseas manufacturers as bribes.
In a day and age when we are all taking pay cuts I just find it hard to feel sorry for the union. I have taken a huge pay cut as the owner of my business this year, and I have friends that have all taken pay cuts or modified work sceduals in various businesses. Do these guys read the news? People are lucky to have job in this economy. I would love to see what the company was asking of them. It is or course easy for us to say that they should or should not take the deal.
Offshoredrillin
New member
I agree, so far this year i have taken a60K pay cut, bills are still paid, that money is right outta my pocket. its frustrating as an owner when employees look at us with disdain for writing their checks. some of these people better wake up, for some the wake up will be when they have no job..who will they blame then?
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
What the company was asking was reasonable to anyone who competes in today's markets.
No more pension, 401K with company match of 50% up to 6% of income cap.
New hires at $11.00 per hour start and build from there instead of the $22 current union workers make. And new hires make in a very short time. Etc.
All the things most other industries have had to do to make up the difference between between what an American manufacturer has to do to compete with imports who don't have governments like ours with business destroying rules and taxes.
No more pension, 401K with company match of 50% up to 6% of income cap.
New hires at $11.00 per hour start and build from there instead of the $22 current union workers make. And new hires make in a very short time. Etc.
All the things most other industries have had to do to make up the difference between between what an American manufacturer has to do to compete with imports who don't have governments like ours with business destroying rules and taxes.
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