Free cars for the poor in Taxatushetts, or what am I doing wrong?

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Free cars for poor fuel road rage
By Hillary Chabot
Thursday, May 7, 2009 - Updated 40m ago


Gov. Deval Patrick’s free wheels for welfare recipients program is revving up despite the stalled economy, as the keys to donated cars loaded with state-funded insurance, repairs and even AAA membership are handed out to get them to work.

But the program - fueled by a funding boost despite the state’s fiscal crash - allows those who end up back on welfare to keep the cars anyway.

“It’s mind-boggling. You’ve got people out there saying, ‘I just lost my job. Hey, can I get a free car, too?’ ” said House Minority Leader Brad Jones (R-North Reading).

The Patrick administration decided last month to funnel an additional $30,000 to the nearly $400,000 annual car ownership program.

The program, which is provided by the State Department of Transitional Assistance, gives out about 65 cars a year, said DTA Commissioner Julia Kehoe.

The state pays for the car’s insurance, inspection, excise tax, title, registration, repairs and a AAA membership for one year at a total cost of roughly $6,000 per car.

The program, which started in 2006, distributes cars donated by non-profit charities such as Good News Garage, a Lutheran charity, which also does the repair work on the car and bills the state.

Kehoe defended the program, saying the state breaks even by cutting welfare payments to the family - about $6,000 a year.

“If you look at the overall picture, this helps make sure people aren’t staying on cash assistance. It’s a relatively short payment for a long-term benefit,” Kehoe said.

But Kehoe admitted about 20 percent of those who received a car ended up back on welfare, and while they lose the insurance and other benefits, they don’t have to return the car.

“Given the state’s fiscal condition, paying for AAA and auto inspection costs is outrageous,” said Senate Minority Leader Richard Tisei (R-Wakefield). “There are so many families out there trying to deal with layoffs and pay cuts. You have to wonder what the state’s priorities are at this point.”

Applicants for cars must have a job or prove they could get one if they had the car in order to qualify. Once they have the wheels, they must send DTA their pay stubs to prove they are employed.

To get the cars, they must be unable to reach work by public transportation and have a clean driving record. The program is only available to families on welfare with children.

Kehoe said the bulk of cars go to places with less public transportation, such as Fitchburg, New Bedford and Lowell.

“I can’t believe there are no restrictions on how they use the car,” Jones said. “I just don’t see this as a core function of government.”


All I can say is wow, what am I doing wrong?:dupe:
 
Mass. is going through some ridiculous times right now. Programs like this accentuate the "taxation' the residents enjoy.

A couple other crazy ideas: Go to New Hampshire (no sales tax) and ask to see a business's records (happened to be a tire store) and tell them they have to collect sales tax for Mass. residents and send the tax to Mass. Keep in mind this business is in ANOTHER STATE!

Install a toll booth on the incoming lanes to Mass. from NH to tax them for coming to your state. NH is threatening to do the same on the incoming lanes from Mass......
 
All you have to do is look at the Senators from Mass and the answer is obvious.
 
Massachusetts great social experiment is about over thank god!! Anyone would have been better then this clown with his offices in Asia and what not. Tax and spend Tax and spend. We finally almost had the Taxachusetts name gone and in one term this clown has put us back into it. Expect much the same on a national scale with Obama!!!
 
well I'm not totally against it. I would like to see the autos come from the motor pools of the state agencies that are scheduled to be removed from service. In todays economy it's bad enough for a lot of us but it has to be devistating for those less fortunate.
 
well I'm not totally against it. I would like to see the autos come from the motor pools of the state agencies that are scheduled to be removed from service. In todays economy it's bad enough for a lot of us but it has to be devistating for those less fortunate.



DONT EAT THE AGENT GREEN!!!!!!!!!! ITS MADE OF PEEEEEEEEEOPLE!:dupe:
 
well I'm not totally against it. I would like to see the autos come from the motor pools of the state agencies that are scheduled to be removed from service. In todays economy it's bad enough for a lot of us but it has to be devistating for those less fortunate.

There is only one thing wrong with it. It once again makes those who work their butts off for minimum wage to get ahead, feel like they shouldn't.

So, give them the car, no problem. But, deduct a small amount from each paycheck, unemployment check, or welfare check. Then incentive also applies.
 
There is only one thing wrong with it. It once again makes those who work their butts off for minimum wage to get ahead, feel like they shouldn't.

So, give them the car, no problem. But, deduct a small amount from each paycheck, unemployment check, or welfare check. Then incentive also applies.

If I followed the story correctly most of the recipients were single moms. I don't think it rewards not working. My daughters work for minimum wages in the food service industries and I really don't think they have too much of a problem with it. I view it as a hand up not a hand out. Maybe the small deduction however would be a good idea. I'm about as conservative as they come but I also know these are unique times of late in this country and helping those who want to work is a good and productive idea IMHO
 
If I followed the story correctly most of the recipients were single moms. I don't think it rewards not working. My daughters work for minimum wages in the food service industries and I really don't think they have too much of a problem with it. I view it as a hand up not a hand out. Maybe the small deduction however would be a good idea. I'm about as conservative as they come but I also know these are unique times of late in this country and helping those who want to work is a good and productive idea IMHO


It's not they get the car to help them go to work and yes I believe they should be paying for it and the insurance, it's that they get to keep the car if the quit or lose the job. Where does it stop? We are paying for all of this. Do you give them a house, a big screen? Reward someone for doing a good job, don't give freebies before they ever prove themselves. Where does it end? Did you get a car? What did you do during tough times? I have had times like this and you work harder, depend on family and friends or get educated. Someone has to pay for the handouts.
 
If I followed the story correctly most of the recipients were single moms. I don't think it rewards not working. My daughters work for minimum wages in the food service industries and I really don't think they have too much of a problem with it. I view it as a hand up not a hand out. Maybe the small deduction however would be a good idea. I'm about as conservative as they come but I also know these are unique times of late in this country and helping those who want to work is a good and productive idea IMHO

I'm just saying the small deduction. Base it on averages. 5% of take home pay or something. Just make people know that stuff can't be free, to get ahead you have to earn it. That would cost a minimum wage earner about $600 per year for a car, insurance, title, registration, repairs, etc.?

And, if they lose their job but want to keep the car, the deduction still comes from the state or federal assistance they receive. Otherwise turn the car in.
 
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