Drag Race Engine Guru's... need starter help

[Shah Mat]

My Nova has a small block with Hedman big tube headers and a Milodon pan. Believe it or not a stock GM starter will slide right up there and bolt up fine. I used the stock starter for years with the old tired 406sb. Now with the new 436 and 14:1 I'm sure the stock one won't cut it. Trouble is all the gear reduction starters are offset and hit the pan and or the header tube. Even with adjustable clock positions. I need to find a starter that will fit the original footprint of a stock GM starter and still crank this thing over. Motor is in the car and the headers were just ceramic coated. I hate to have to pull it to either change pans and/or cut the header tube.

Gear reduction/offset-This one will not fit:
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/10001/10002/-1

Anyone ever use this starter? It says 4.4:1 reduction but I can't tell how much it's offset. Picture looks like it may fit....
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD/121/5095/10002/-1

Pan:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Milodon/697/31167/10002/-1

 

[Trim'd Up]

What about this one? They have several different starters on the site and you can't beat their prices. I have had good luck with all of their stuff.

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/db...tarter Super Torque Series 3 HP MT200 SHI0032

 

[Geronimo36]

did you try these guys?
http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/

 

[FastDonzi]

I did an s-10 with a smallblock and had to use a "Metric" Starter, I Had thorley Tri-Y Headers and a regular starter wouldn't fit, even the gear reduction had a problem fitting but the small body of the metric starter worked out fine. The nose matches the flywheel the same but the case is much smaller, I forget what cars they came on.......

 

[Chris]

Years ago, I used one from an 80's Oldsmobile 350 diesel on a high-compression engine. Turned it over great.

I would also go to a big battery, upgrade wire gauge and wrap the starter with heat shielding.

 

[Shah Mat]

did you try these guys?
http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/

I actually called Powermaster this morning and guy told me they didn't make one that was the same footproint as the GM.

 

[Geronimo36]

PN 9200 looks like the Chevy high torque mini starter.. Not sure what a standard GM is rated too but that one has 160 ft. lbs and is rated up to 10:1.

also, it's marine but ARCO makes an HP mini starter as well. Not sure what it's rated to but I run them on my blower engines...

 

[Bertram38]

In my day of drag cars 1990s, we used stock 12 volt high crank GM starter with a 18 Volt battery. Wow, did that ever work good on all my High compression big blocks.
Ps, we had a voltage regulator for the 12 volt chassis system. Just the starter got the 18 Volts. Who Hoo:26:

 

[Griswald]

If memory serves, there are a couple versions of starters with different clocks. Some will only rotate a couple positions and some will go full 12 o'clock. The latter able to mount on either side of the block.

 

[Clustergear]

try a stock GM starter with the long spacer in front of solioid and the two big fat leeds coming up from the fields. ( must be two fat leeds not one fat and one thin and don't let anyone tell you there the same) They were called super high torque starters and were used on all the old stock high compression engines. I have ued them on motors with 12.5 -1 for years

 

[boatman574]

I have the MSD Mini Starter on my 436, Works GREAT. Make Sure you Locktite the Mounting Bolts, as the Clocking Bolts Come Loose.