Joe
Charter Member
Guys, Here's the message I just replied to Elton Porter re: my Cat insurance and our conversation last year regarding, 'Joe, I know it's high... just pay it this year and we'll try to really do something about it next year.' Needless to say, my premium didn't go down, as expected.
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out of all of the people/entities i do business, Markel/*** etc... is/are the only group whom I do not appreciate/enjoy doing business (giving my money) -- regardless of the premium(s). nearly every cat owner who is insured by EP that i've spoken with is of the same opinion.
no 'one' scenerio makes sense. eg. a first time boater, who has hooked a 38' 700 Merc. Fountain, severely damaged the boat and passengers, then purchased a 42' 700 Merc. Fountain and then was quoted a similar rate to mine to insure MY SKATER if he purchased it!
not to mention this person would be using the boat at a minimum, 75-100 hrs. per year vs. my 20-30. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to determine who's the higher risk, do you?
...not to mention, i, on my own, brought my cat to JT and had him/Lupe/TnT completely go thru the boat prior to taking it on it's first poker run... then spent several hours with JT, showing me exactly where the 'edge' and/or 'limits' of the boat was/were.... so i knew when danger was near/approaching (in advance) vs. trying to navigate 'thru' danger after i was already in it. i think it's fair to say i have received TONS more knowledge from JT than one could imagine getting from Tres and/or Brad (not that either of them are bad--- but rather, thank goodness there is someone out there, are of their quality (multi-time world and nat'l champs) that has chosen to make the time for 'the majority').
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on top of that, prior to my cat leaving the Factory, JT took both Bruce and me out in a friend's (Chris J's) 410 Skater (whom EP also insures --- for **k annual premium), teaching both Bruce and me to look/see things/danger that most never even recognize until they're in the middle of it --- in one of the roughest boating waters in the country; Lake Michigan.
being the 'only' choice in anything does not necessitate taking advantage of the situation, leaving your clientele feeling as if it's a 'flip of the coin' to determine insurance rates. at the end of the day... i am unhappy over 2k. i think it's safe to say we all make well in excess of 2k just during the time frame it took me to type this message -- it's about my (the client's) experience.... and, as previously stated, i haven't found one happy, or even satisfied, cat client. it's time to raise the bar and learn to separate/make a distinction between your 'higher' risk clientele, which we all are, running 140+ mph, and your 'rookie/dangerous/DWI/Drunk out of their minds at every event' clientele... and adjust the premiums accordingly.
take this to your Marine Director. i would be very interested in his response. at this point, if there were another reputable cat insurance choice, i would take it in a minute. enough is enough.
Regards,
Joe Pandak
***** ,
out of all of the people/entities i do business, Markel/*** etc... is/are the only group whom I do not appreciate/enjoy doing business (giving my money) -- regardless of the premium(s). nearly every cat owner who is insured by EP that i've spoken with is of the same opinion.
no 'one' scenerio makes sense. eg. a first time boater, who has hooked a 38' 700 Merc. Fountain, severely damaged the boat and passengers, then purchased a 42' 700 Merc. Fountain and then was quoted a similar rate to mine to insure MY SKATER if he purchased it!
not to mention this person would be using the boat at a minimum, 75-100 hrs. per year vs. my 20-30. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to determine who's the higher risk, do you?
...not to mention, i, on my own, brought my cat to JT and had him/Lupe/TnT completely go thru the boat prior to taking it on it's first poker run... then spent several hours with JT, showing me exactly where the 'edge' and/or 'limits' of the boat was/were.... so i knew when danger was near/approaching (in advance) vs. trying to navigate 'thru' danger after i was already in it. i think it's fair to say i have received TONS more knowledge from JT than one could imagine getting from Tres and/or Brad (not that either of them are bad--- but rather, thank goodness there is someone out there, are of their quality (multi-time world and nat'l champs) that has chosen to make the time for 'the majority').
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).
on top of that, prior to my cat leaving the Factory, JT took both Bruce and me out in a friend's (Chris J's) 410 Skater (whom EP also insures --- for **k annual premium), teaching both Bruce and me to look/see things/danger that most never even recognize until they're in the middle of it --- in one of the roughest boating waters in the country; Lake Michigan.
being the 'only' choice in anything does not necessitate taking advantage of the situation, leaving your clientele feeling as if it's a 'flip of the coin' to determine insurance rates. at the end of the day... i am unhappy over 2k. i think it's safe to say we all make well in excess of 2k just during the time frame it took me to type this message -- it's about my (the client's) experience.... and, as previously stated, i haven't found one happy, or even satisfied, cat client. it's time to raise the bar and learn to separate/make a distinction between your 'higher' risk clientele, which we all are, running 140+ mph, and your 'rookie/dangerous/DWI/Drunk out of their minds at every event' clientele... and adjust the premiums accordingly.
take this to your Marine Director. i would be very interested in his response. at this point, if there were another reputable cat insurance choice, i would take it in a minute. enough is enough.
Regards,
Joe Pandak
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