yep, there was four people that died in that Lexus accident in cali. They had time to call 911 and talk to the dispatcher for a couple minutes before they crashed. Just goes to show ya that when your in a panic even the best or smartest drivers make mistakes and cant think straight. Not gonna turn this into a p*ssin match but theres really no problem with the fly by wire system in the toyotas,mostly driver error. Let me tell ya I'm making a killin doin all the toy recalls...... kinda good but kinda bad for toyota.