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Aritie, Dave or Other Gelcoat expert. I do not have a spray booth, it seems like gel is real easy to apply with a roller. When rolling gel on the transom should it be applied strait with not accetone for thinning? When I painted the bilge, I added the catalist, applied to surface then sprayed the pva? Then sand and repeat as nessary. Does this sound correct?
 
Aritie, Dave or Other Gelcoat expert. I do not have a spray booth, it seems like gel is real easy to apply with a roller. When rolling gel on the transom should it be applied strait with not accetone for thinning? When I painted the bilge, I added the catalist, applied to surface then sprayed the pva? Then sand and repeat as nessary. Does this sound correct?
Jeff , Why would you need a spray booth to spray jell and do you own a spray gun ? Jeff , it is so much easier to spray the gell on the transom then to try rolling it because you can put on as much as you feel is necessary in one shot to do the job even if it means spraying 1 quart or more . Jeff , to be honest with you i have never in all my years doing fiberglass repair have ever rolled jell coat on a transom before , bilge yes but transom no .
 
Jeff , Why would you need a spray booth to spray jell and do you own a spray gun ? Jeff , it is so much easier to spray the gell on the transom then to try rolling it because you can put on as much as you feel is necessary in one shot to do the job even if it means spraying 1 quart or more . Jeff , to be honest with you i have never in all my years doing fiberglass repair have ever rolled jell coat on a transom before , bilge yes but transom no .
Thanks Artie, just a thought. I have a couple of spray guns. Just thinking about overspray and how I can cover everything up. I will just have to figure out how to cover and tape everything off. I may work on it Thursday when the temps are a little higher.
 
Thanks Artie, just a thought. I have a couple of spray guns. Just thinking about overspray and how I can cover everything up. I will just have to figure out how to cover and tape everything off. I may work on it Thursday when the temps are a little higher.
Jeff , not a problen Thin the gell with acetone add your catalyst , spray your jell and always spray more then you think you might need and remember this is not automotive paint and then re shoot the surface with PVA . Jeff , just a mention the bigger the tip on the gun the better it will move the material .
 
Here are the latest pics. Shot the transom with gel this afternoon. For those of you that have shot paint, this is some weird stuff. You can lay in on thick and add coat after coat. I did not have any runs that I could see. I am not sure yet if I will be happy with the color. I used white gel with no added pigment and it is not a perfect match. However it is the back of the boat and it will probable blend in within a year or two. If I get a perfect match then it may get worse as the boat is used. Also brushed a second coat on the bilge, turned out nice. After I get it all cleaned up I will take some more pictures.
 

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Here are the latest pics. Shot the transom with gel this afternoon. For those of you that have shot paint, this is some weird stuff. You can lay in on thick and add coat after coat. I did not have any runs that I could see. I am not sure yet if I will be happy with the color. I used white gel with no added pigment and it is not a perfect match. However it is the back of the boat and it will probable blend in within a year or two. If I get a perfect match then it may get worse as the boat is used. Also brushed a second coat on the bilge, turned out nice. After I get it all cleaned up I will take some more pictures.
I have to say that spraying jell leaves room for alot of mistakes and talk about high build , hey . Jeff , is the jell whiter or...................... and if so you will have a lot going on back there .
 
I have to say that spraying jell leaves room for alot of mistakes and talk about high build , hey . Jeff , is the jell whiter or...................... and if so you will have a lot going on back there .
The new gel is a little whiter, so over time it should blend in. No matter how much you clean it the back of the boat gets a little stained over time. Just being picky.
 
Just a little sanding and buffing, no big deal. :ack2: Ok, what grit should I start with?
Jeff , are you going to use a file board when doing this and finish out with a hog or D A ? Jeff , i always break the surface with # 180 and move down the line to the point where you can buff the Jell . Jeff ,mind you that everybody has there own technique in doing this and what works for me might not work for others and like we talked about before i rarely ever go into 600 grit & 90% of the time once i get it in #400 im ready to buff . Jeff , and dont forget to use Guide Coat or something on that line .
 
I have a DA and in-line air sanders. Have not measured it but the in-line is about 18" long. I was planning on using the in-line and some by hand on the finishing.
 
Here are a few pics of the bilge and transom after I cleaned everything up. Color is a little off, should be a lot better after I sand and buff.
 

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Here are a few pics of the bilge and transom after I cleaned everything up. Color is a little off, should be a lot better after I sand and buff.
Jeff if the color really bothers you , re spray the area that is not as white to the outside radius and to the rub rail and make it uniform . Jeff , just a thought before you start sanding everything because it will not take much more time to to redo the area that is a little off in color and give you personal satisfacation in having the whole transom look the same color .
 
Jeff if the color really bothers you , re spray the area that is not as white to the outside radius and to the rub rail and make it uniform . Jeff , just a thought .
Artie, It's fine. I am just to picky, I am going to do a little sanding on it tomorow. I ordered Auqu Buff 1000 & 2000, it will be here on wed. After I am all finished I will post the after pictrues. You have to understand how this boat is treated, never sits outside, wiped down as soon as it is out of the water, only sees the sun when it is being used. I do however "Run it like I stole it" if I have a creeper". :sifone: Somtimes I win somtimes I loose, lately I have been winning more, should be better this year.
 
Artie, It's fine. I am just to picky, I am going to do a little sanding on it tomorow. I ordered Auqu Buff 1000 & 2000, it will be here on wed. After I am all finished I will post the after pictrues. You have to understand how this boat is treated, never sits outside, wiped down as soon as it is out of the water, only sees the sun when it is being used. I do however "Run it like I stole it" if I have a creeper". :sifone: Somtimes I win somtimes I loose, lately I have been winning more, should be better this year.
Jeff cannot wait to see it shine .
 
I am trying to match the Baja arctic white gelcoat. I just called Spectrum, they have the pigments, however will not give out the magic formula, anyone know the amounts of color needed. I realize this is the factory color and not exactaly what I have now. They use chrome yellow green, phthalo? blue and black. I will order the pigments but not if I have no idea of how much of each to add.
 
I am trying to match the Baja arctic white gelcoat. I just called Spectrum, they have the pigments, however will not give out the magic formula, anyone know the amounts of color needed. I realize this is the factory color and not exactaly what I have now. They use chrome yellow green, phthalo? blue and black. I will order the pigments but not if I have no idea of how much of each to add.
Jeff , do not even mess with it just order the jell and be done with it . Jeff , there are so many Artic Whites out there that it is un real and to fart around with trying to get the right match is a waste of time . Jeff , in the past i have burned up so many hours of my own time just trying to get a match .
 
What about a pinstripe on the color line? Say teal or black to match your boat name. Possible it could give you the breakup between the colors that they wouldn't be as noticable.

I talked to the local shop about something of the sorts, they had an off-white and a gray pigment used to try to blend in new white gel with old gel. Haven't tried it yet myself, not to that point yet.
 
I called a local glass shop, if I bring the boat to them they think they can match what I have very close. I have been very busy the last couple of weeks. I should have a day this week to take it to them. The transom is still pretty wavey so I have a bunch of sanding to do. If I get that done I should be able to shoot it next weekend.
 
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