MOBILEMERCMAN
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The old electric shift's were called Dock Busters for a reason.
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The old electric shift's were called Dock Busters for a reason.
LaughingCat
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I havent read this whole thread yet, but apparently, Ford and GM are offering big incentives for people to trade their Toyotas in right now. I say, "go for it, America." Let's get back on top.
LaughingCat
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And the "shift to neutral" move was the first thing I thought when they mentioned sticky pedals last year. They finally mentioned it on the Today Show this morning, like it was some revelation.
BTW, the lanyard comment was great.
BTW, the lanyard comment was great.
MacGyver
Charter Member
I saw a news report that Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple Computer, has a 2010 Prius and had a runaway condition when he tried to activate the cruise control. No stuck peddle, no floor mat issues. He feels it's a software issue. Toyota (behind closed doors) admits they have no idea whats causing the problem, but are trying to blame the "faulty" peddle and shift the blame to the supplier.
If I owned one, I'd park it.
If I owned one, I'd park it.
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Edward R. Cozzi
Founding Member
This morning I heard on the news that Toyota has the fix ready. It's a thin piece of steel the size of a postage stamp that goes under the gas pedal.
bajacleveland
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Wait till this happens in the boats that are fly by wire.
htrdlncn
New member
Actually both the Corvette and GTO had problems with the drive by "maybe" wire , in their case they would go to idle though not WOT,could be just as bad if it happens in high speed traffic though.
Drive by wire may be great in planes with high quality equipment and strict regulation but in the auto world where the cheapest bidder rules its a damn stupid idea.
Already has. I know of a collision here in Annapolis where a 50 Ocean was coming into what we call Ego Alley (City Dock). Captain (pro) pulled throttles back to neutral and no shifty. Boat kept tooling right along at about 6 knots. So he tries reverse, feels a bump, gases it, still in forward. Pins a Fountain fishy boat right against the dock in a t-bone.(totaled) They had to shut down the systems to get the thing out of gear-all electronic throttles and shifter. I also have a friend that bought a 42 Cruisers with E shift diesels, had it shift to neutral a couple of times for no reason. So the factory guy is looking at it and they are cruising 25 mph and one of the engines comes out of gear, before the guy driving can pull back on the throttle it shifts back into gear with the engine on the rev limiter. They are probably still finding pieces of the trans in the bilge of that boat, and Cruisers gave him a new one.
Airpacker
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LOL, the so called "Precision Metal Reinforcement" is what they are calling it on the news here. My bet is that gets the car in the door and a PCM reprogram is what the car gets before it leaves with its new piece of steel.
Baja Fresh
Charter Member
What's the push button got to do with putting the trans in neutral? That would have been the quick solution.
Don't shut off the engine until you come to a stop so you don't lose power steering and brakes.
getchasum111
Charter Member
Dodge and Crysler have the same pedal's from the same manufacturer as the Toyotas (CTS) but you don't hear the govt press release about them....
nope, thats not the fix. I have been a Toyota tech since '92.They're building a new pedal,changing the floor design under the pedal and the most important thing is we're reflashing the ecu to cut engine power over 2000rpm's when the brake pedal is applied. drive by wire is used in alot of cars and is the norm now. I saw first hand a 2005 cadilac fly through our shop and go right through the brick wall of the service dept. because of a bad pedal. luckily no one was hurt so it happens to every manufacture. also I have seen FIRST HAND many toyotas come in with 2 or 3 floor mats wedged under all the pedals for years..... always thinking to myself....someones gonna get hurt from this. Yes,toyota f*cked up the way they handle it but 99% was/is floor mat related. Also how to shut off your push button start is in the owners manual wich NO ONE reads. Also there is NO WAY you can slow down your car with a WOT condition by standing on the brakes....wont happen. No vacumm. you must shift to nutruel or slam it in park who cares. it will stop than. Toyota is a great company.....look at there "sludge recall" we will fix your sludged up motor for free no matter the miles and no proof of EVER doing oil changes. Go ask your Gm,Ford,chrysler to do that. BTW I drive a Dmax so I do support the American three
Edward R. Cozzi
Founding Member
Cool. Thanks for responding. Great to get it "straight from the horses' mouth".
That will be the key piece of evidence in the class action IMHO.
possable. not all manufacture's have the fuel cut when brakes are applied but they all should.
MacGyver
Charter Member
Sure would make heel and toe difficult...
No brake stands either.....oh wait, yotas are front wheel drive :willy_nilly:
JupiterSunsation
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Guy couldn't get it to go into neutral......2nd choice was to try to shut it off also a no go for him. Car eventually went off the road and rolled/caught fire. 4 dead.
How do we know that? Is it on the 911 call?
Anybody have a Lexus that will run out and try and shift out of D at WOT?
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