Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize.......

[jayboat]

you got me on the spelling. I spent too many years covering the unlimiteds and the busch family from the miss budweiser side, so i always spell it that way. Call me uninformed. Anyone who wants to take the shot, feel free. No, i don't have severe leftist leanings because i lived in california and my wife's parked car was hit in the middle of the night by an uninsured motorist and we had no recourse. Bottom line is, i just hate everyone wanting to tee off on obama when he's not had the chance to do good or bad. It comes across as petty. I don't think the guy before him did a great job, but that's just my opinion. Let's just give our current president a chance.

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[Bobcat]

we can make it about anything we want.

I'm sure the previous eight years had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whatever it was that happened to your level of beer drinking in November.

It's like the bushco years havent got anything to do with where we are now.

Bush was trying to save the country. does the tip of obummer taste any different than the base ?

 

[Audiofn]

hahahahahahahahaha WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM???

I am from the planet that says that your boys had two years to address many of the issues that we are dealing with today and did NOTHING about it. Since we know that Bush could only sign into law what the house and senate puts in front of him, why did your democratic buddies not do anything in those two years to address the issues that we are now faced with. Get rid of the housing bubble and what are we left with? No problem. People have over spent for decades and we are now paying the price. Most families have cut back in the last year. You blame bush for spending like a rabid dog and I do not defend him one bit. He should have let the companies fail that he bailed out. So if you are mad at Bush for all his spending then what about Obama he make Bush seem like a true conservative.

I could have accepted Clinton getting the award but Obama..... NO WAY especially only 10 days into his term. It is a joke.

 

[Buoy]

The current issues have been long coming.
It didn't start with Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or H Bush, or Reagan...
It started with the American lower middle class/lower classes sense of entitlement. They felt they deserved better just because they are American. The politicians all agreed, and gave it away to stay or get elected.
Next thing you know, we have illegal immigrants that now also live the American dream without supporting it/earning it. But, it still gets both parties elected. And that's all that is important to our lawmakers. (Not sure why we need "lawmakers", seems we have plenty of laws, and the only ones that are heavily enforced are the ones that bring revenue to the political and justice system, and, you have to remember, the more people we incarcerate, the more prisons we build, and the more prison guards we need. This creates jobs in both construction and law enforcement...)
This has been coming since before I was even born. I guess I'm just "lucky" enough to be part of one of the generations going through this.
It's going to take a big reality check (not as in a "payout", or government stimulus) for this country to realize what's actually important.
I lived in the cash game all of my early years, and then things started falling apart in a business, I had to play the credit game to stay afloat.
Credit was only a bilge pump on my sinking ship.
I learned that lesson.
I'm just thinking aloud now, but, are the politicians really to blame? All they did was give the people what they wanted - they were doing the "will of the people", which after all, "we" (I say that collectively as a nation) elected them to do the will of the people.
This isn't a thought bashing on anyone, or any party - I leave this open for debate, and if my thoughts are off, correct me and I will graciously agree or refute.

But, back on topic.
Obama and Nobel Peace Prize nomination within 11 days of taking office?
And then to actually win.
Must've been because of how he averted a race riot by inviting two guys to the Whitehouse for a beer. Now, that was a very peaceful move on his part.

 

[Audiofn]

The Nobel puts a basically insignificant country on the map for a day or two. With this decision they have been talked about for days. Maybe they did make the correct decision we are still talking about it after all.

 

[cuda]

The Nobel Peace Prize shouldn't be awarded to the person with the best intentions. It should go to someone who has actually made a difference. I don't think that is the case here.

 

[fund razor]

The current issues have been long coming.
It didn't start with Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or H Bush, or Reagan...
It started with the American lower middle class/lower classes sense of entitlement.

Thank you to the early architechs of entitlements, like Roosevelt and Kennedy. Should have built debtor prisons instead of hand outs.

Obama and Nobel Peace Prize nomination within 11 days of taking office?
And then to actually win.
Must've been because of how he averted a race riot by inviting two guys to the Whitehouse for a beer. Now, that was a very peaceful move on his part.

Nominated on day eleven.
Voting was on day 12. Discernment was a 24 hour period.

He invited those guys to the white house because he became involved in something that he should not have. The good professor was in his own home, he should have simply provided ID, since he was in the right. But he was tired and wanted a fight with the professional law enforcement officers, who were responding to a non-race specific suspicious person call.... because the good professor's neighbor was genuinely concerned. This was not a national issue until Mr. Obama decided to weigh in on it. (He can, cause he's black.)

 

[VtSteve]

Yes the is.

LOL I was looking for it :willy_nilly:

 

[fund razor]

The Nobel puts a basically insignificant country on the map for a day or two. With this decision they have been talked about for days. Maybe they did make the correct decision we are still talking about it after all.

Ok. So it was like the Palin nomination then.

 

[fund razor]

LOL I was looking for it :willy_nilly:

Lol.

Couldn't help myself.

You know Steve, I have been reading your thoughts about the partisan rhetoric damaging the process. I don't disagree.... but when stuff like this happens, you just have to wonder what the heck is behind it. I suppose that you don't need to wonder for 20 posts, like I did. But you really do have to wonder.
What would be interesting is a separate thread about the influence of media and partisan rhetoric on the process, and what can be done to reduce the amount of rote restatement of the same.

 

[Ratickle]

Lol.

Couldn't help myself.

You know Steve, I have been reading your thoughts about the partisan rhetoric damaging the process. I don't disagree.... but when stuff like this happens, you just have to wonder what the heck is behind it. I suppose that you don't need to wonder for 20 posts, like I did. But you really do have to wonder.
What would be interesting is a separate thread about the influence of media and partisan rhetoric on the process, and what can be done to reduce the amount of rote restatement of the same.

Well, seems as if a larger percentage of Americans are starting to understand about media influence at least......:sifone:

Poll: Fox Most Trusted News for Americans

Fox News has supplanted CNN as the 'most trusted' news source for Americans, a nationwide poll finds.


The poll conducted by Sacred Heart University, found that the most trusted national TV news organizations, for accurate reporting, in declining order included: Fox News (27.0%), CNN (14.6%), and NBC News (10.90%). These were followed by ABC News (7.0%), local news (6.9%), CBS News (6.8%) MSNBC (4.0%), PBS News (3.0%), CNBC (0.6%) and CBN (0.5%).

The Sacred Heart University Poll also found significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting.

In the current national poll, just 19.6% of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4% in 2003. Just under one-quarter, 23.9%, in 2007 said they believe little or none of reporting while 55.3% suggested they believe some media news reporting.

 

[fund razor]

hahahahahahahahaha WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM???
As usual, you give yourself way too much credit. :ack2:

It will be an interesting winter. As your confidence grows, your name calling and bear poking will increase. It is a cycle that repeats. You will eventually cross a line from which you can't retreat.

Meanwhile... maybe the cutting and pasting is a better tactic. At least until Andrew Sullivan gets his own membership and cuts you out of the loop.

 

[Chris]

I just hate everyone wanting to tee off on Obama when he's not had the chance to do good or bad. .

I would argue that he has had time. Time at least to accomplish something. Considering that he's got a full lock on Congress and a big chunk of the appelate judiciary, I'd say he's got some advantages. So far he's taken an unimaginable sum of OUR money and passed it out to every pet Dem/Lib project that couldn't get arrested prior to his administration. And he's concealed it under the banner of "stimulus". That and he's bolstered the ratings of the networks by being on there constantly.

Being "against" Obama makes about as much sense as catching a glimpse of your pilot while boarding a plane and saying "I don't like the looks of that SOB, I hope he crashes on takeoff".

I will agree that I don't want give him a chance to acomplish virtually any of the things that he's spoken about taking on. I philosophically agree with virtually none of it. Most of it has been tried before and has failed. I know a bit about history and can see a bad idea from miles away. Big government doesn't work. Government bureaucracy is inefficient and expensive- there's no motivation to be efficient. The best model for this is found in the disparity between civilian and government employment. Private business has rapidly adapted to the changing economic realities while governments are still doing things the old fashioned way. My local community is a good example. Instead of doing more with less, their employees are getting nice raises and work-rule protections. Their solution? Cut services. They can do that- they're operating off of revenues derived from my mandatory payments to them. These are the people that want to run my health care?

For the record, I believe GWB was a horribly irresponsible president from a fiscal perspective and that his managerial style prevented him from moving swiftly enough on issues ranging from foreign wars to our economic slide.

 

[Ratickle]

Bottom line is, I just hate everyone wanting to tee off on Obama when he's not had the chance to do good or bad.

By the way, that is the premise of him not deserving the award. He has yet not done any good.

 

[fund razor]

I am not against Obama either.

But I am befuddled about the pre-emptive award, and wonder if we are moving toward a world in which awards are given on the basis of entitlement rather than results.

 

[jayboat]

Bush was trying to save the country. does the tip of obummer taste any different than the base ?

Save us from what? all those Iraqis that were getting ready to invade us?

is it dark with your head that far up w's anal cavity?

 

[LaughingCat]

I've decided that politics engagement on SOS and OSO needs to be humorous or it's worthless. Two thoughts:

1. Giving O-man the Nobel now is like giving the Heisman trophy out before the season starts. They may have the right guy, but he hasn't proven anything.

2. i decided to have fun with the nobel prize last night. one of our friends is a galactic-sized Obama hater. to amuze him at a dinner party last night, I took an old party badge, covered it in paper and titled it the nobel Peace prize. When asked, I told people all you had to do was give a speach in front of Muslims. So i went to 7-11, lectured the clerk and got my Nobel Peace prize.

 

[jayboat]

It will be an interesting winter. As your confidence grows, your name calling and bear poking will increase. It is a cycle that repeats.

There is no winter where I live- enjoy your interesting snow.

As your head continues to grow in size from a neverending stream of self-generated hot air, we can only hope that it finally explodes from an overload of pompous self-righteousness and bear poop.

 

[cuda]

If he actually does anything, let him be up for the award then. This is the first time I've heard of a preemtive award.

 

[jayboat]

I've decided that politics engagement on SOS and OSO needs to be humorous or it's worthless. Two thoughts:

1. Giving O-man the Nobel now is like giving the Heisman trophy out before the season starts. They may have the right guy, but he hasn't proven anything.

2. i decided to have fun with the nobel prize last night. one of our friends is a galactic-sized Obama hater. to amuze him at a dinner party last night, I took an old party badge, covered it in paper and titled it the nobel Peace prize. When asked, I told people all you had to do was give a speach in front of Muslims. So i went to 7-11, lectured the clerk and got my Nobel Peace prize.

:rofl::rofl: