Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize.......

Laughing Cat, now you done did it...
This has become a total hi-jack.:willy_nilly::biggrinjester:
While I completely agree with you on a freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, or not at all, I also agree that this is a personal thing not to be imposed on anyone else.
I don't agree with religious holidays recognized by our Gov't - even Christmas or Easter (yes, I was raised Catholic). Or any Muslim, Jewish, Hindu... holiday for that matter. Gov't has NO business in religion (otherwise they will screw that up too...:willy_nilly:)
I can't say I believe in the church, or necessarily the Bible 100% as the word of God, I think it has been interpreted and manipulated over the years.
But, I do believe there is a God.
This country was started under a belief in Christianity, so that puts us in an interesting place now.
This country has become a diverse population of many different beliefs, both religious, and political.
I would encourage everyone to choose their own path.

Holy Crap, look how far we are off track.
Obama hasn't done anything worthy of any award.
There, back on track.
I'll go back to polishing my own Nobel, picked it up at WalMart today. Got the last one. The fat lady in sweatpants riding the scooter and wearing the wolf sweatshirt almost got it before me, but i was faster!:)
Almost shoved her off the scooter to ride it to the checkout, but that would have been mean. So I just let the air out of tires.
How's that for peace??:reddevil:
 
The saddest part, after reading al of the headlines, pundits, comedians, etc.

It has degraded the Nobel Peace Prize into just another political award instead of an important part of improving society to be earned and honored.:(
 
Well, I suppose it is another reason for narrowminded bible thumpers to hate those with differing beliefs. That's always a win for some people.

Do you always have to resort to name calling such as bible thumpers? I hadn't set foot in a church in 38 years.

Btw, your picture isn't accurate as usual. Einstien believe in God. He said there was no other explanation for life. I read they figured it would take 10 to the billionth power to accidently replicate just one strand of DNA contained in a blood cell. Now, figure out how many times such an act must happen for life as we know it. Even Darwin near the end of his life came to the conclusion that there is no other answer for life. So be my guest to not believe.
 
Albert Einstein

The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Don't know how we ended up here. But, on this one Cuda's correct.

By the way, I love researching stuff as long as the name calling generalizations don't come into the discussions......
 
As far as Darwin, it appears to be no actual proof either way. There were actual eye witness accounts both ways in his dying days. So, inconclusive from everything I've read.
 
Do you always have to resort to name calling such as bible thumpers?

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Apologies if I offended your delicate sensibilities.

One name I am particularly fond of is HYPOCRITE. But, I guess it doesn't count when YOU use names for 'descriptive' purposes, does it?

My use of the term 'bible-thumpers' was meant to refer to those zealots who insist on pushing their beliefs on others. My personal feeling is that everyone should be free to believe whatever they want to believe.

:USA:
 

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Albert Einstein

The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Don't know how we ended up here. But, on this one Cuda's correct.

By the way, I love researching stuff as long as the name calling generalizations don't come into the discussions......

You are such a wikiratickle. :sifone:
 
You are such a wikiratickle. :sifone:

I actually stay away from WIKI. It has limited credibility in my estimation because anyone can add to it with very little support. If it is used for links to support, sometimes it is good....

As far as pushing beliefs, we all do to some extent......:sifone: It's tough not to if you're passionate about things.
 
I would submit to you that there's a massive difference between faith in a higher power and organized religion.
 
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My use of the term 'bible-thumpers' was meant to refer to those zealots who insist on pushing their beliefs on others. My personal feeling is that everyone should be free to believe whatever they want to believe.

:USA:

Could the same thing apply to politics? Because they raise my taxes when pushing their beliefs and that's either party
 
Someone could receive the Nobel Peace Prize for settling this thread down.

Buoy, I totally agree. Religion is a veryimportant part of many positive aspects in life. But everyone should be free to practice whatever they believe, or chose not to believe without their loyalty and patriotism to American being questioned.
 
Well, seems as if a larger percentage of Americans are starting to understand about media influence at least......:sifone:

Poll: Fox Most Trusted News for Americans

Fox News has supplanted CNN as the 'most trusted' news source for Americans, a nationwide poll finds.


The poll conducted by Sacred Heart University, found that the most trusted national TV news organizations, for accurate reporting, in declining order included: Fox News (27.0%), CNN (14.6%), and NBC News (10.90%). These were followed by ABC News (7.0%), local news (6.9%), CBS News (6.8%) MSNBC (4.0%), PBS News (3.0%), CNBC (0.6%) and CBN (0.5%).

The Sacred Heart University Poll also found significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting.

In the current national poll, just 19.6% of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4% in 2003. Just under one-quarter, 23.9%, in 2007 said they believe little or none of reporting while 55.3% suggested they believe some media news reporting.

I'm not quite sure I'd want to win that poll if I ran a newscast or network.

First off, Fox "news" has not much news on. It it even more heavily laced with pundits and opinionated specials than anyone. I watched several networks from the Clinton years to this year. I found one thing to be generally true, although most of the MSM claimed to be Dems', they relentlessly hammered on Clinton, and now, Obama. WTF you say? You can't possibly view any of the pundit talk shows without hearing Obama's problems.

All news tends to be slanted due to bias, particularly the wording, omissions, footage, of the day. Fox is probably the most unapologetically biased of all time. If you followed FNN from 2001 to current, you'll probably wonder, if even subconsciously, how stories contradicting previous ones go without mention. How very large issues and exposé's go away, never to be heard from again. But they are successful where others have failed. Many today still repeat materially false claims because they heard it on FNN.. basically a TV form of the Drudge Report.

The only thing Fox News, CNN, or anyone else has "Supplanted", is independent thought. People now view news as though it were a football game, or an R movie. Fox has made cynicism relevant, and encourages bias for ratings. The other networks never figured out the last part.
 
Someone could receive the Nobel Peace Prize for settling this thread down.

Buoy, I totally agree. Religion is a veryimportant part of many positive aspects in life. But everyone should be free to practice whatever they believe, or chose not to believe without their loyalty and patriotism to American being questioned.

I need an complete, and thourgh, explanation of you new sig lines.....
 
People now view news as though it were a football game, or an R movie. Fox has made cynicism relevant, and encourages bias for ratings. The other networks never figured out the last part.

You missed the point. Fox News is "The" most trusted source of news for those who watch the news. And, that less than 20% of Americans believe the news is trustworthy.
 
I would submit to you that there's a massive difference between faith in a higher power and organized religion.

I agree 100%. Their have been more lives lost in religious wars, than all other wars combined.

I'm not saying everyone that goes to church is a hypocrite, just that the worst hypocites are in church. Going to church makes me no more of a Christian, than standing in a garage makes me a car.
 
Someone could receive the Nobel Peace Prize for settling this thread down.

Buoy, I totally agree. Religion is a veryimportant part of many positive aspects in life. But everyone should be free to practice whatever they believe, or chose not to believe without their loyalty and patriotism to American being questioned.

This country was founded on a belief in God. You see In God We Trust on every dollar bill put out by this country, I read they are going to make it illegal to put anything about God on a postage stamp, for fear of insulting someone. I have no such fear.

In God We Trust.
 
Many today still repeat materially false claims because they heard it on FNN.. basically a TV form of the Drudge Report.

Oddly enough the Kennedy School of Journalism found that Drudge was the most unbiased of all the blogs and News sites they compared. Articles sighted on Drudge were close to 50% right and left. Even though his own lean is right, the articles he posts are about evenly distributed.
 
Oddly enough the Kennedy School of Journalism found that Drudge was the most unbiased of all the blogs and News sites they compared. Articles sighted on Drudge were close to 50% right and left. Even though his own lean is right, the articles he posts are about evenly distributed.

You're not quoting studies done by that right tilted Kennedy School of Journalism are you.....:sifone:...:sifone:
 
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