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Sean Stinson
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Thanks for the call Gino we will talk more in the near future!!!!
MarylandMark
Charter Member
Hey Gino- I know you are not only a fan but a racer and more importantly putting your money where your mouth is. Thanks for all that you do, are doing and continuing to do for the sport!
I see how "keyboard racers" get to you guys (me included and some times the leader of that pack!) but don't want to pizz off who is ultimately your end customer.
Cheers and many checkered flags in your future!
Mark
I see how "keyboard racers" get to you guys (me included and some times the leader of that pack!) but don't want to pizz off who is ultimately your end customer.
Cheers and many checkered flags in your future!
Mark
MANITIE
Charter Member / Competitor
Mark....Thanks...and I do not want to tick off any fans...but as you know there are some out there with only agenda's...and you are sure not one of them...I would never put you in that catagory...I have never seen you post something on here that has put down our sport or and Org....its just a few...so I speak my mined on here when I see it....hope to see you soon again...may be even YODA will be sitting on a few phone books to see over the dash again....
MANITIE
Charter Member / Competitor
T2x.....I'm basing my comment on experience....in 2001 - 2003 with the Speed Channel TV shows did great things for my team with sponsorship...if you talk to fans they will tell you the shows were great...since lossing that show...it has been twice the battle to get sponsors....with the number one question from potental sponsors being will there be any TV....Every Org has look to get TV...but becasue of cost elected to opt out of that path...look at some of the past TV that has been aired in the last 4 years....none have been anywhere near the shows since the APBA days....but every ORG has said it still better for the sport....
just GIECO over last week in KT. running up and down the river by themselves have had a 10 min show put together....
You can take 15 boats and make it a show....but its up to the producers to do that....and if racers are smart...putting on a little show also themselves...checking out on everyone is not good racing to watch...people want to see deck to deck racing....there is nothing wrong with racers doing a little of that...which we were told before any race in the drivers meeting in APBA....that a lot of the footage being used is were there was deck to deck racing....
But to not ask for TV because your not sure if the show will be good...is not a great approach....the racers want to get sponsors...and TV is the esiest way to get sponsors and attention for your team and our sport...
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XtremeRacing
Competitor
The Kentucky Derby was less when 2 mins for the race with a 3 hrs show...hummmmmm it was on the air from 4-7 saturday. I guess you can make anything work if you have the right people doing it.
stevequick
Charter Member
Excellent points Gino and well spelled.
T2x we all respect and value your experience and input. It's true we will never know where we are going if we forget where we came from.
In an orderly world we would have to gather our sht, remove twenty classes and exhibit a lot more competition before we became interesting to Joe Public.
Then Carbonell inks a deal that catapults us into the family rooms of a couple million Joe's. Ready or not here we come. Saturday afternoons this Fall between College Football games. Prime channel surfing time.
It does not always come in an orderly manner.
The partnership with Red Bull completely changed the rules and courses of Airplane racing. The producers took a fascinating and dangerous sport and made it understandable and interesting to the uninitiated. That is the model I believe the CBS deal will try to duplicate.
If what I have herd is correct it will not resemble anything we have seen.
SQ
stevequick
Charter Member
Rich,
You might be amazed at how much of your advice may be taken.
Look, the last place I belong is in a debate with you, I am no Icon. Actually if we agree on almost every subject, what we are having is a conversation. It's a conversation everyone with an Offshore race boat and the cash to race it should be having.
If your assumptions prove to be correct and this is a rehash of past mistakes, damn SBI and whoever else is involved.
But what if this actually is "like nothing else we have ever seen?" Who are we to pass this up, even if it is not perfect but better. Who are we to pass it up?
If my assumptions, based on the little I have heard prove to be correct, the difference this time will be that the patients are not in charge of the asylum.
For Offshore THAT would be a whole different animal.
Stay tuned,
SQ
You might be amazed at how much of your advice may be taken.
Look, the last place I belong is in a debate with you, I am no Icon. Actually if we agree on almost every subject, what we are having is a conversation. It's a conversation everyone with an Offshore race boat and the cash to race it should be having.
If your assumptions prove to be correct and this is a rehash of past mistakes, damn SBI and whoever else is involved.
But what if this actually is "like nothing else we have ever seen?" Who are we to pass this up, even if it is not perfect but better. Who are we to pass it up?
If my assumptions, based on the little I have heard prove to be correct, the difference this time will be that the patients are not in charge of the asylum.
For Offshore THAT would be a whole different animal.
Stay tuned,
SQ
MarylandMark
Charter Member
Here is what I don't get-
Would you rather race:
36 Skater with 525's for free (whatever org and class that fits in; if any)? When I say free I mean you have a sponsor and are a paid professional racer.
or
36 Skater with 700's (whatever org and class that fits in;if any) on your own dime? When I say your own dime I mean you race the way you most likely do now; it could mean you are a paid professional racer but more than likely not so much (not that you are less of a racer by any means; focusing only on the money aspect).
So- with TV here (again); why not "fall in line" with the rules of the org that has the cameras behind them? Why not spend your money now to get your boat/crew set up to race the org with the TV coverage so you won't be spending your money in the future?
I know - it is easy for me to spend your money and it is your money and you can spend it however you like. I don't have boat racing money but I can tell you if I were racing and had to drop the coin of 2-3 seasons on this single season so I may not only never have to drop my own coin to race again but get paid to race- I'd be there!
Would you rather race:
36 Skater with 525's for free (whatever org and class that fits in; if any)? When I say free I mean you have a sponsor and are a paid professional racer.
or
36 Skater with 700's (whatever org and class that fits in;if any) on your own dime? When I say your own dime I mean you race the way you most likely do now; it could mean you are a paid professional racer but more than likely not so much (not that you are less of a racer by any means; focusing only on the money aspect).
So- with TV here (again); why not "fall in line" with the rules of the org that has the cameras behind them? Why not spend your money now to get your boat/crew set up to race the org with the TV coverage so you won't be spending your money in the future?
I know - it is easy for me to spend your money and it is your money and you can spend it however you like. I don't have boat racing money but I can tell you if I were racing and had to drop the coin of 2-3 seasons on this single season so I may not only never have to drop my own coin to race again but get paid to race- I'd be there!
stevequick
Charter Member
You might be surprised if you get that call, I will not.
SQ
SQ
Mark, what makes you think we could get any sponsors for this year. Beacause there is a boat race on TV? No one has said if we get a sponsor which class's will be shown. I dont see getting a sponsor unless they get a return on there investment. If someone had the balls to say we will be concentrating our show on this class then maybe people from that class would come and maybe people would re-rigg there boats to meet that class specs. Offshore needs a top selling class that can put on a show and focus on that class. It may be P-5 or it may be Turbine but pick one! No compatition, no long term TV would be my guess.
MD
MD
Steve so who is in charge of this project? I would love to see some new blood with a dream and a fresh plan. If its the same old,same old its hard to believe. We have been down that road. What happens if after filming the whole season they dont like the show and dont air it? Is that possable?
MD
MD
MarylandMark
Charter Member
Great points and some thing I hadn't thought of. Your right- that is a lot of coin if you aren't even in the rolling credits. Plus I'm sure all racers are tired of being promised the world in one way or another only to be screwed in one way or another- offshore racing is it's own worst enemy.
How about using the bad blood (for lack of a better term) between the orgs as the start of a rivalry? Give'em someone to cheer for?
So not to sound negative, What would be great is if SBI had a advertisement agency that got boats sponsors. Now that it is going to be on NBC. SBI could get there cut,the agency could get there cut and the team now has money to get to the races that will put on a bigger show.:sifone:
MD
MD
MarylandMark
Charter Member
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Mark thats a great angle. I have always liked trash talking before a race. Maybe someone could be challangeing someone to a race in SBI. Build a challange that our boats are better than yours. Who wants a piece of that!:sifone: Some compansation would go a long way as well to get it going.
MD
MD
XtremeRacing
Competitor
Randy,
I think you are going to be suprised at how many advertiser you will see shortly. I guess time will tell, either they will or they won't.
I think you are going to be suprised at how many advertiser you will see shortly. I guess time will tell, either they will or they won't.
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