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It's like taking water out of the deep in of the pool and putting it into the shallow end of the pool. That will make the shallow end deeper, right? :rolleyes:
 
If he really is a closet domestic terrorist like I suspect, he couldn't do a better job of destroying this country if he tried.
 
I listened to some of his speechifying in Europe this week. I will give you a couple quotes;

"America has been arrogant".

"America needs to wake up and realize Europe is the leader in the world".

Now, I may not have every exact word correct but WTF is he doing talking like that on Foreign soil?? :mad::mad::mad:

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If he really is a closet domestic terrorist like I suspect, he couldn't do a better job of destroying this country if he tried.
Yeah and he's a secret Muslim too, 1st cousin to Osama(names are close so he has to be), plus a far-left Socialist/Communist. :rolleyes:

Tell me, tunnel, what size is that tinfoil hat you're wearing?
 
2 out of 3, not bad Everett. Although the secret Muslim thing is debatable, he is pretty open in his love for those that would have us all dead. And he is Medevev's new "comrade" so we can probably drop the Socialist tag and just go with Communist.
 
2 out of 3, not bad Everett. Although the secret Muslim thing is debatable, he is pretty open in his love for those that would have us all dead. And he is Medevev's new "comrade" so we can probably drop the Socialist tag and just go with Communist.
Yeah he's so "open in his love" that he wants to destroy al Qaeda and the Taliban. You would call him a pu$$y or worse if he didn't go in after them. I'm on several political sites and the Reich wingers rag on him no matter what he does, right or wrong.

I know this though; bu$h could never have brought the nations together like President Obama did at the G20. That gives me great hope for the future.
 
I listened to some of his speechifying in Europe this week. I will give you a couple quotes;

"America has been arrogant".

"America needs to wake up and realize Europe is the leader in the world".

Now, I may not have every exact word correct but WTF is he doing talking like that on Foreign soil?? :mad::mad::mad:

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He's right about the first but I haven't heard anything about the second quote. If he said that, the right wing American media would have been all over it, so I very much doubt he said that.
 
I listened to some of his speechifying in Europe this week. I will give you a couple quotes;

"America has been arrogant".

"America needs to wake up and realize Europe is the leader in the world".

Now, I may not have every exact word correct but WTF is he doing talking like that on Foreign soil?? :mad::mad::mad:

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Not quite what he said. Actually on a whole I don't have much issue with the speech he gave to the French and German college students.

Article Link; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5101244/President-Barack-Obama-America-has-been-arrogant-and-dismissive-towards-Europe.html
His speech in Strasbourg went further than any United States president in history in criticising his own country's action while standing on foreign soil. But he sought to use the comments, which amount to a mea culpa for recent American foreign policy, as leverage to alter European views of America and secure more troops for the war in Afghanistan.

He declared that there had to be a fundamental shift on both sides of the Atlantic. "America is changing but it cannot be America alone that changes."


"Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

He then balanced this striking admission with a tough message to Europeans that blaming America and using its actions as an excuse to avoid tackling the global Islamist threat was unacceptable.

"But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognising the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what is bad."

In a speech which his aides billed as a commitment to rebuild transatlantic relations by offering an olive branch directly to young Europeans, he offered himself as the figure who could bridge the gap that had grown over the eight years of President George W. Bush's administration.

"On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common," he said. "They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated.

"They fail to acknowledge the fundamental truth that America cannot confront the challenges of this century alone, but that Europe cannot confront them without America."

During questions, Mr Obama, who was applauded frequently and had to choose between scores of young students clamouring to catch his eye, asked Americans to let French and Germans address him. "Do me a favour Americans," he said. "Wait till we get back home and I'll do a town hall there."

Although a central message was that he represented a clean break from his predecessor, Mr Obama – in a rare use of his Muslim middle name - emphasised that some of the problems Mr Bush had faced would not miraculously disappear.

"I think it is important for Europe to understand that even though I am president and George Bush is not president, al-Qaeda is still a threat and that we cannot pretend somehow that because Barack Hussein Obama got elected as president, suddenly everything's going to be OK," he said.

"It is going to be a very difficult challenge. Al Qaeda is still bent on carrying out terrorist activity. It is - you know, don't fool yourselves because some people say, 'Well, you know, if we changed our policies with respect to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or if we were more respectful to the Muslim world, suddenly these organisations would stop threatening us.' That's just not the case."
 
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I listened to some of his speechifying in Europe this week. I will give you a couple quotes;

"America has been arrogant".

"America needs to wake up and realize Europe is the leader in the world".

Now, I may not have every exact word correct but WTF is he doing talking like that on Foreign soil?? :mad::mad::mad:

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Not quite what he said. Actually on a whole I don't have much issue with the speech he gave to the French and German college students.

Article Link; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5101244/President-Barack-Obama-America-has-been-arrogant-and-dismissive-towards-Europe.html
His speech in Strasbourg went further than any United States president in history in criticising his own country's action while standing on foreign soil. But he sought to use the comments, which amount to a mea culpa for recent American foreign policy, as leverage to alter European views of America and secure more troops for the war in Afghanistan.

He declared that there had to be a fundamental shift on both sides of the Atlantic. "America is changing but it cannot be America alone that changes."


"Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

He then balanced this striking admission with a tough message to Europeans that blaming America and using its actions as an excuse to avoid tackling the global Islamist threat was unacceptable.

"But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognising the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what is bad."

In a speech which his aides billed as a commitment to rebuild transatlantic relations by offering an olive branch directly to young Europeans, he offered himself as the figure who could bridge the gap that had grown over the eight years of President George W. Bush's administration.

"On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common," he said. "They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated.

"They fail to acknowledge the fundamental truth that America cannot confront the challenges of this century alone, but that Europe cannot confront them without America."

During questions, Mr Obama, who was applauded frequently and had to choose between scores of young students clamouring to catch his eye, asked Americans to let French and Germans address him. "Do me a favour Americans," he said. "Wait till we get back home and I'll do a town hall there."

Although a central message was that he represented a clean break from his predecessor, Mr Obama – in a rare use of his Muslim middle name - emphasised that some of the problems Mr Bush had faced would not miraculously disappear.

"I think it is important for Europe to understand that even though I am president and George Bush is not president, al-Qaeda is still a threat and that we cannot pretend somehow that because Barack Hussein Obama got elected as president, suddenly everything's going to be OK," he said.

"It is going to be a very difficult challenge. Al Qaeda is still bent on carrying out terrorist activity. It is - you know, don't fool yourselves because some people say, 'Well, you know, if we changed our policies with respect to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or if we were more respectful to the Muslim world, suddenly these organisations would stop threatening us.' That's just not the case."
Good post, I watched a bit of his speeches early on fri morning. I too thought his goal was not to show weakness, but to try to stop the anti American bashing. I'm still not decided as to whether he was smacking GW, or just trying to use history as a metaphor, BUT I was impressed when the people seemed to get the point that we aren't the enemy and we have carried them for a long time. it was a different version of class wars that the anger was directed at the ugly Americans. However, I still think that the we wouldn't be in this position of power without men like GW, every president has made mistakes, and in his short Tenure, Pres Obama has, IF, he can get Russia and other country's to work together, then that will help stabilize global banking, hopefully the recent surge on wall street shows a glimmer that people are ready to start investing again.
 
No matter whether I like him, his policies, or just the opposite. I do think, in that speech, he was the most Presidential I've seen him. And that, my friends, is a good thing in that situation.


Makes you wonder how he can be so "Uh", when asked a question and so good when giving a memorized speech.
 
Playn;

That is the speech I heard but the comments I posted, which may only be off by a word or two, are conspicuously absent. And I was listening to Obama himself saying them.

I will try to find an accurate, non-European news report and post it.
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