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Drew (NTE) on X: "I used to be a camera operator for Auburn Athletics and worked many college football games for ESPN and SEC network. The Big Ten is lying to you and fabricated evidence for Michigan to have an extra play at the end of the game against Western Michigan. The stadium clock is the standard. Not whatever the replay booth decides it is."
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I guess if you have a team who can aford to pay their QB over $10 million, you can afford to pay referees and NCAA officials a small part of that for the wins. Doesn't seem to matter if you are recruiting during times it is illegal, paying assistant coaches to go steal oppossing teams play call signs, paying players behind the scenes when it was illegal, or putting imaginary time back on the clock. Sad. 
Apparently, the Big House is the land where time stands still, where clocks melt like a Salvador Dalí painting and Deloreans wind back the minute hand just enough for the home team to get another chance.
It’s where games end but somehow continue, where football takes 60 minutes and one second and days are 24 hours and one second. Where teams already afforded every advantage are now given the gift of imaginary time.
According to the U.S. Department of Education Equity in Athletics website, Western Michigan’s budget – for its entire department – is $8 million. Published reports estimate Michigan quarterback Bryce Underwood’s NIL package at between $10.5 million and $12.5 million over four years.
“When I looked up at the clock, it was past zeroes,’’ said Western Michigan head coach Lance Taylor.
Because it was. Time had officially run out on Michigan, the 24th-ranked Wolverines held to a baseball score by their directional little brother over in Kalamazoo. Underwood’s last-ditch pass sailed out of bounds, the clock clearly showing zero before the ball touched a Western Michigan defender’s hand.
Instead, here we are, a week in and wondering why an official review is seemingly being run like a Louisiana courtroom. Why the eleventh hour came with an extra second, killing time proved impossible, and time fails to fly in Ann Arbor.
The real kick here is this isn’t even the first time this happened with Michigan. In 2005, officials found two seconds when the unranked Wolverines hosted No. 8 Penn State. Back then, they ruled the stadium clock stopped too early after Michigan was granted a timeout. On the next play, quarterback Chad Henne threw a 10-yard TD pass to Mario Manningham, giving the Wolverines the win.
Apparently, the Big House is the land where time stands still, where clocks melt like a Salvador Dalí painting and Deloreans wind back the minute hand just enough for the home team to get another chance.
It’s where games end but somehow continue, where football takes 60 minutes and one second and days are 24 hours and one second. Where teams already afforded every advantage are now given the gift of imaginary time.
According to the U.S. Department of Education Equity in Athletics website, Western Michigan’s budget – for its entire department – is $8 million. Published reports estimate Michigan quarterback Bryce Underwood’s NIL package at between $10.5 million and $12.5 million over four years.
“When I looked up at the clock, it was past zeroes,’’ said Western Michigan head coach Lance Taylor.
Because it was. Time had officially run out on Michigan, the 24th-ranked Wolverines held to a baseball score by their directional little brother over in Kalamazoo. Underwood’s last-ditch pass sailed out of bounds, the clock clearly showing zero before the ball touched a Western Michigan defender’s hand.
Instead, here we are, a week in and wondering why an official review is seemingly being run like a Louisiana courtroom. Why the eleventh hour came with an extra second, killing time proved impossible, and time fails to fly in Ann Arbor.
The real kick here is this isn’t even the first time this happened with Michigan. In 2005, officials found two seconds when the unranked Wolverines hosted No. 8 Penn State. Back then, they ruled the stadium clock stopped too early after Michigan was granted a timeout. On the next play, quarterback Chad Henne threw a 10-yard TD pass to Mario Manningham, giving the Wolverines the win.
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MAC appeals WMU football loss to Michigan, asks to count it as win
"The established replay protocol requires that the game clock displayed on the program feed be used in determining whether time remained," MAC commissioner John Steinbrecher said in the announcement. "Instead, the Big Ten Conference replay crew relied upon the clock feed embedded within its replay system. As a result, one second was placed back on the game clock and an additional play was awarded. "This was not a judgment regarding the proper amount of time to place on the clock. It was an error in the application of the established replay protocol governing this specific end-of-game timing situation. Had the protocol been properly followed and the program-feed clock been used, no additional play would have been awarded, and Western Michigan would have won the game, 12–7."Thankfully the NCAA has cleared up the issue with their clarifications of the rules in response to the Western Michigan appeal for overturn of the score:
NCAA clarifies protocol amid fallout from Michigan’s win over Western Michigan
“The replay official’s decision will be based on the embedded game clock contained within the program feed. If the broadcaster is unable to provide an embedded game clock, the replay official will use the game-clock graphic displayed as part of the broadcast feed,” said the memorandum.“Moving forward, this timing protocol should be followed consistently at all institutions and game sites.”
However:
The NCAA responded to the MAC with a statement that read, according to The Athletic, "NCAA football playing rules do not have a protocol for overturning the outcome of a game. ... The Division I Football Bowl Subdivision Oversight Committee also does not have the authority to overturn the outcome of a game."
So, even thought the referees did not follow the rules, and gave a fake victory to Michigan, (hope they enjoy their new condos on the beach), the NCAA when clarifying the rule stated thet what they did was wrong, cannot overturn the win because there is no rule for overturning referees who cheat?
What BS!!!
I hope they file suit against the referees, the BIG 10, and the NCAA! Now all cheating refs know their decisions cannot be overturned because the NCAA says so?
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Kind of surprising that Ohio State has no first place votes. They led the entire game, and except for a missed field goal, would have won.
AP Top 25
- Texas (56)
- Georgia (3)
- Notre Dame (1)
- Indiana (3)
- Miami (4)
- Ohio State
- LSU (1)
- Ole Miss
- Texas A&M
- Alabama
- BYU
- USC
- Texas Tech
- Penn State
- Tennessee
- SMU
- Utah
- Iowa
- Michigan
- Missouri
- Oregon
- Houston
- Louisville
- Oklahoma
- Virginia
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NCAA acknowledges Michigan Hail Mary vs WMU should not have happened
The NCAA on Wednesday, Sept. 16 acknowledged that the controversial ending of Michigan football's narrow victory vs Western Michigan should never have happened.In a statement summarizing a review of the end-of-game processes, the NCAA said that instant replay protocol was not properly followed after the conclusion of what appeared to be a game-ending incompletion by Bryce Underwood.
"Had the protocols been followed, the outcome of the game would have been different," the NCAA statement reads.
That outcome would have resulted in a 12-7 victory for Lance Taylor's Broncos over the then-16th-ranked Wolverines. As it stood, Big Ten officials put one second back on the clock, with Underwood completing a Hail Mary to JJ Buchanan in the end zone for a 13-12 victory on the final play of the game.
The NCAA's acknowledgment that Western Michigan should have won the game — which comes after the Mid-American Conference sought to have the result overturned — also states that it has no power to overturn the result of a game.
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