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Airpacker said:
Heres a question for ya. I just turned 45 a couple days ago. I am 6 foot even, weigh 190 and have been that weight give or take a couple pounds for over 20 yrs. Wear a size 34 wais pant and have ever since college days. Can't grab much more than an inch of flab around the middle any where really. I do avoid soda ( or pop as we call it) and drink mostly water, a half quart of 2% moo moo juice, 2 coffees per day and beer ( usually only weekends ) but, I am sure my chosen diet is probably "bad" for me. Lots of dead animals, ( mainly chicken) occasional junk food but not too often, lots of indian and carribean type spicy foods, sushi, rice and lots o veggies too. I only eat twice per day, once around 10am and then dinner anywhere from 7:30 to 8:30 at night mon to fri. Weekends are a little better, 2 or 3 meals per day at more "normal times" although there are days when I just don't bother eating until dinner time because I just am not hungry. ( is that screwed or what)

My question is this, at what age will I wake up and look like Homer Simpson? :)

No, seriously, I have noticed a little beer belly starting although it doesn't really seem to be fat as per say, just the abs getting lazy? Definately not a go to the gym type person. Work 12 to 14 hrs a day and sometimes longer and have a family at home that still likes to see me from time to time so dedicating gym time just doesn't add up for me.

What good and effective home excercises could you recommend to bring the stomach muscles back into shape? Sit ups, crunches type stuff or are there more efficient programs that I could do?
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well mr air packer...

sounds to me like you have a pretty healthy lifestyle and maybe just a few tweaks to help you live a little healthier than you already are..

no soda... great!
milk... even better
beer... even at two a day is not unhealthy but could be the source of your belly! is it light beer??

your diet seems good and best of all it seems to work for you, if i could suggest a healthy snack in between your two meals it would be yogurt, nuts, or something containing fiber seems to be about all the input i could add without more research into you.

its sounds like your every day life is relatively active and a gym may not be the best way to change your lifestyle. i am by no means a person that says you have to go to the gym to be healthy...

However your abdominal fat is something to be concerned about...

a lot of people dont realize that fat does not only store under your skin but in some people (men) it stores in your abdomin. This fat is a serious sign of some underlying problems that could occur in your near future (heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes) studies show that people who store fat inside their abdomen tend to have a higher rate of heart disease than people who don’t.

The problem with your stomach is a little different than most people realize...
The reason your stomach has started to pooch out is because the tendon that runs down the center of your stomach has started to relax or stretch. this causes your stomach to have a pouched look. althought you can only grab an inch on your skin, you are storing fat inside your guts. what relaxes this tendon??? well it can be several things... alcohol is a huge reason a lot of men have large stomachs. Alcohol tends to speed up the relaxing of this tendon and lets the abdominal muscle fall to each side while the added fat in the abdominal pushes this further and further out. This abdominal (intestinal) fat can NOT be burned off by crunches.

will crunches help?? yes but its not a miracle solution.

here is my suggestion to you...

after listening to your lifestyle I would encourage you to do one thing!! and you can do it with your family or wife (who likes you)

when you wake up first thing in the morning before a shower or breakfast....

go for a walk....

your hormone levels are at their peak when you wake in the morning and there is no food in your stomach for an energy source. simply take a morning walk with you wife and enjoy your time together. it could make a huge difference in your daily calorie expenditure and will certainly make a big dent in that belly of yours... then go about your day as you have for the last 20 years

that’s my advise for what its worth :)

oh and then go to Wal-Mart and buy an exercise ball... they come with instructions and can be the best ab workout in your life... and they are only abou 10 bucks or i can send you one for 7 dollars plus shipping i buy them in cases

good luck and feel free to ask any more advice

andy
 
fund razor said:
Tim belongs to the Marlboro Health and Fitness Club. :sifone:
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Marlboro Light Health and Fitness Club.:sifone:
I still have this pesky high BP thing that I need to look into after things settle down around here - or should I say out West.
 
viperfitness1 said:
well mr air packer...

sounds to me like you have a pretty healthy lifestyle and maybe just a few tweaks to help you live a little healthier than you already are..

no soda... great!
milk... even better
beer... even at two a day is not unhealthy but could be the source of your belly! is it light beer??

your diet seems good and best of all it seems to work for you, if i could suggest a healthy snack in between your two meals it would be yogurt, nuts, or something containing fiber seems to be about all the input i could add without more research into you.

its sounds like your every day life is relatively active and a gym may not be the best way to change your lifestyle. i am by no means a person that says you have to go to the gym to be healthy...

However your abdominal fat is something to be concerned about...

a lot of people dont realize that fat does not only store under your skin but in some people (men) it stores in your abdomin. This fat is a serious sign of some underlying problems that could occur in your near future (heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes) studies show that people who store fat inside their abdomen tend to have a higher rate of heart disease than people who don’t.

The problem with your stomach is a little different than most people realize...
The reason your stomach has started to pooch out is because the tendon that runs down the center of your stomach has started to relax or stretch. this causes your stomach to have a pouched look. althought you can only grab an inch on your skin, you are storing fat inside your guts. what relaxes this tendon??? well it can be several things... alcohol is a huge reason a lot of men have large stomachs. Alcohol tends to speed up the relaxing of this tendon and lets the abdominal muscle fall to each side while the added fat in the abdominal pushes this further and further out. This abdominal (intestinal) fat can NOT be burned off by crunches.

will crunches help?? yes but its not a miracle solution.

here is my suggestion to you...

after listening to your lifestyle I would encourage you to do one thing!! and you can do it with your family or wife (who likes you)

when you wake up first thing in the morning before a shower or breakfast....

go for a walk....

your hormone levels are at their peak when you wake in the morning and there is no food in your stomach for an energy source. simply take a morning walk with you wife and enjoy your time together. it could make a huge difference in your daily calorie expenditure and will certainly make a big dent in that belly of yours... then go about your day as you have for the last 20 years

that’s my advise for what its worth :)

oh and then go to Wal-Mart and buy an exercise ball... they come with instructions and can be the best ab workout in your life... and they are only abou 10 bucks or i can send you one for 7 dollars plus shipping i buy them in cases

good luck and feel free to ask any more advice

andy
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Hmm, interesting info Andy. Unfortunately, my day starts at 530 am. A morning walk right now would definately be a solo thing and friggin cold too. It was minus 27 celcius at 530 this am. Hard to believe that anything could "burn" in that temp :)

My day is spent about 80% on my feet either reaching up or bending over which is why I suspect my back muscles are strong and then some. Too bad I don't have to bend over backwards a couple hundred times a day or I would probably have a 12 pack for abs. :(

So, the fat is on the iside huh. Guess I'll have to work on that then.

Funny you bring up the excercise ball. I had read recently about the rising number of broken wrists from "ball falls" and then yesterday, my daughters 12 yr old best friend fell off her moms and broke her wrist.

Having already gone thur a reconstruction of my right wrist that involved bone grafts etc, I am kinda leary about thse things.

Any other ( safer ) suggestions?
 
Cold weather is an excellent time to lose weight. Your body burns mega calories just trying to stay warm.
 
viperfitness1 said:
well mr air packer...

sounds to me like you have a pretty healthy lifestyle and maybe just a few tweaks to help you live a little healthier than you already are..

no soda... great!
milk... even better
beer... even at two a day is not unhealthy but could be the source of your belly! is it light beer??

your diet seems good and best of all it seems to work for you, if i could suggest a healthy snack in between your two meals it would be yogurt, nuts, or something containing fiber seems to be about all the input i could add without more research into you.

its sounds like your every day life is relatively active and a gym may not be the best way to change your lifestyle. i am by no means a person that says you have to go to the gym to be healthy...

However your abdominal fat is something to be concerned about...

a lot of people dont realize that fat does not only store under your skin but in some people (men) it stores in your abdomin. This fat is a serious sign of some underlying problems that could occur in your near future (heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes) studies show that people who store fat inside their abdomen tend to have a higher rate of heart disease than people who don’t.

The problem with your stomach is a little different than most people realize...
The reason your stomach has started to pooch out is because the tendon that runs down the center of your stomach has started to relax or stretch. this causes your stomach to have a pouched look. althought you can only grab an inch on your skin, you are storing fat inside your guts. what relaxes this tendon??? well it can be several things... alcohol is a huge reason a lot of men have large stomachs. Alcohol tends to speed up the relaxing of this tendon and lets the abdominal muscle fall to each side while the added fat in the abdominal pushes this further and further out. This abdominal (intestinal) fat can NOT be burned off by crunches.

will crunches help?? yes but its not a miracle solution.

here is my suggestion to you...

after listening to your lifestyle I would encourage you to do one thing!! and you can do it with your family or wife (who likes you)

when you wake up first thing in the morning before a shower or breakfast....

go for a walk....

your hormone levels are at their peak when you wake in the morning and there is no food in your stomach for an energy source. simply take a morning walk with you wife and enjoy your time together. it could make a huge difference in your daily calorie expenditure and will certainly make a big dent in that belly of yours... then go about your day as you have for the last 20 years

that’s my advise for what its worth :)

oh and then go to Wal-Mart and buy an exercise ball... they come with instructions and can be the best ab workout in your life... and they are only abou 10 bucks or i can send you one for 7 dollars plus shipping i buy them in cases

good luck and feel free to ask any more advice

andy
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Andy,

That ball things sounds interesting. I think I will go pick one up. One more question for you if you don't mind. I have been eating breakfast before I ride my bike every morning. Is this wrong, should I exercise before I eat?

David
 
Airpacker said:
Hmm, interesting info Andy. Unfortunately, my day starts at 530 am. A morning walk right now would definately be a solo thing and friggin cold too. It was minus 27 celcius at 530 this am. Hard to believe that anything could "burn" in that temp :)

My day is spent about 80% on my feet either reaching up or bending over which is why I suspect my back muscles are strong and then some. Too bad I don't have to bend over backwards a couple hundred times a day or I would probably have a 12 pack for abs. :(

So, the fat is on the iside huh. Guess I'll have to work on that then.

Funny you bring up the excercise ball. I had read recently about the rising number of broken wrists from "ball falls" and then yesterday, my daughters 12 yr old best friend fell off her moms and broke her wrist.

Having already gone thur a reconstruction of my right wrist that involved bone grafts etc, I am kinda leary about thse things.

Any other ( safer ) suggestions?
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nope... sounds to me like you are just looking for reason NOT to take my advice. for people like you, i advise to stop being so lazy. i see your exact case everyday and your arrogance is annoying to people like me who try to help. i didnt say you had to walk outside! buy a treadmill!!! you can afford a 100k boat but you cant buy a treadmill?? RIGHT!!! sounds to me like you are the lazy guy who thinks he does it all..

the ball is a great cheap way to learn some great abdominal exercises but if you act like a 12 year old and are going to break your wrist while you use it, then i would advise you to let your belly keep growing and be the fat lazy guy who cant walk or use a exercise ball.... truth hurts!

listen i dont care what you excuses are... but they are all just that! excuses!! i see people every day who have way more on their plate than you do and they seem to get it done. but it sounds like you are special!!!

im sorry you feel the need to find a problem with solutions? i fire any empoyees of mine who act like that because we dont have time for it in my business. instead of taking solid advice and building on it you would rather find reason you CANT do something. my employees and i are here to help people who CAN!! not cant...

the time you spent writing this useless post, you could have spent walking... shows me a lot

good luck
 
Davidmnc said:
Andy,

That ball things sounds interesting. I think I will go pick one up. One more question for you if you don't mind. I have been eating breakfast before I ride my bike every morning. Is this wrong, should I exercise before I eat?

David
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if you can... ALWAYS do cardio before you eat! you will burn way more fat.

heres an example... you body is like a top ( the toy you spun up on the floor and watched it till it stopped 5 min later) when you do cardio... you spin up your metabolism. and it takes time for your metabolism to spin back down(hours after your workout). so you are maximizing how much fat you burn during cardio and the best part is your body is burning calories for hours after. so if you eat after your cardio then the calories will be used more efficiently and should result in better fat lose...

hope this helps
 
viperfitness1 said:
nope... sounds to me like you are just looking for reason NOT to take my advice. for people like you, i advise to stop being so lazy. i see your exact case everyday and your arrogance is annoying to people like me who try to help. i didnt say you had to walk outside! buy a treadmill!!! you can afford a 100k boat but you cant buy a treadmill?? RIGHT!!! sounds to me like you are the lazy guy who thinks he does it all..

the ball is a great cheap way to learn some great abdominal exercises but if you act like a 12 year old and are going to break your wrist while you use it, then i would advise you to let your belly keep growing and be the fat lazy guy who cant walk or use a exercise ball.... truth hurts!

listen i dont care what you excuses are... but they are all just that! excuses!! i see people every day who have way more on their plate than you do and they seem to get it done. but it sounds like you are special!!!

im sorry you feel the need to find a problem with solutions? i fire any empoyees of mine who act like that because we dont have time for it in my business. instead of taking solid advice and building on it you would rather find reason you CANT do something. my employees and i are here to help people who CAN!! not cant...

the time you spent writing this useless post, you could have spent walking... shows me a lot

good luck
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WOW, that was a little harsh wasn't it? I don't recall saying that I don't want to take your advise. I don't recall posting that "I cant" and I'm not too sure where you get the idea that I am "lazy" either.

One thing no one has ever accused me of is being "lazy".

I was joking about the cold weather walking part. No way in hell my wife is going to get up at 4:30 am when its freezing out to walk with me. She doesn't like me that much :)The time part on the other hand BEFORE I start my day is no joke. 4:30 am start so I can walk before I go to work? Could I not achieve the same goals by walking AFTER work? Even if it meant for a longer period of time?

I do not know so I am asking about alternatives.

PS, running is out of the question. I have had 4 knee operations due to skiing incidents and there is NO cartiledge between the bones of my left knee.

No, I don't have a problem buying a treadmill. Not even sure where that comment came from.




As for the excercise ball, I was dead serious about my reservations. After having multiple very painful operations, spending 6 months in various casts, 12 months after that in therapy and still having a wrist that only partially flexes in three directions and hurts constantly, I am very cautious about what dangers I put that body part in. I make my living with my hands. I kinda need whats left of that wrist to stay intact.

Sorry you took my post so personally. It wasn't meant to pizz you off.

Sean
 
Viper - I have lots and lots of excuses.... but I've also gained a lot of weight over the last few years :( My mistake is in simply being lazy. Tony can eat pretty much whatever he wants and stay skinny - I can't. Plus I stopped working out the more I traveled with work. Then, after I stopped traveling so much, it was out of my routine and I never got back into it.

Anyway - I'm trying to start again. I saw your recommendation for a week of working out for fund. Would that apply the same for me or do you recommend different intervals for girls?
 
Airpacker said:
WOW, that was a little harsh wasn't it? I don't recall saying that I don't want to take your advise. I don't recall posting that "I cant" and I'm not too sure where you get the idea that I am "lazy" either.

One thing no one has ever accused me of is being "lazy".

I was joking about the cold weather walking part. No way in hell my wife is going to get up at 4:30 am when its freezing out to walk with me. She doesn't like me that much :)The time part on the other hand BEFORE I start my day is no joke. 4:30 am start so I can walk before I go to work? Could I not achieve the same goals by walking AFTER work? Even if it meant for a longer period of time?

I do not know so I am asking about alternatives.

PS, running is out of the question. I have had 4 knee operations due to skiing incidents and there is NO cartiledge between the bones of my left knee.

No, I don't have a problem buying a treadmill. Not even sure where that comment came from.




As for the excercise ball, I was dead serious about my reservations. After having multiple very painful operations, spending 6 months in various casts, 12 months after that in therapy and still having a wrist that only partially flexes in three directions and hurts constantly, I am very cautious about what dangers I put that body part in. I make my living with my hands. I kinda need whats left of that wrist to stay intact.

Sorry you took my post so personally. It wasn't meant to pizz you off.

Sean
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sean,

by no means did you pizz me off... i hope it did not come accross like im angry. i just take a no b.s. appoach to helping people. ive been helping people for a long time and dont play games with what will work and what wont work. i gave you 2 very simple solutions to your problem and you gave me excusses why you could not do them.

i just dont appreciate when im going out of my way to help you find solutions to your problems and you can not help me build you a program and you only want to say what you cant do. when you put me out there to answer your question about your problems and you choose to shut the door in my face then i refuse to help any more. i dont know what can be safer than the exercise ball. the only way someone could break their wrist using one would be to use it completely improperly.

i think at this point i would refer you to a physical therapist to help you with the disablities that you have becuase they seem a little more severe than what i need to be giving advise. im really not a physical therapist and i specialize in helping healthy people improve their life style.


good luck

ps the roids are getting to my head:D GRRRRRRR
 
DonziGirl said:
Viper - I have lots and lots of excuses.... but I've also gained a lot of weight over the last few years :( My mistake is in simply being lazy. Tony can eat pretty much whatever he wants and stay skinny - I can't. Plus I stopped working out the more I traveled with work. Then, after I stopped traveling so much, it was out of my routine and I never got back into it.

Anyway - I'm trying to start again. I saw your recommendation for a week of working out for fund. Would that apply the same for me or do you recommend different intervals for girls?
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no!

send me a pm with all your personal info... weight, height, age, very specific details about you personal life, any disabilites and DONT LIE becuase you are only cheating yourself if you do and i might have one of my very serious roid rages:sifone::sifone:

seriously tho your case will proabably be a little different so all that info would help
 
So how much weight would you drop, if it was just a fianc'e??????hahahahahaha.. sorry dumb axx in axtion.......................:blush5:
 
DonziGirl, I guess this is the wrong place to ask about bread machines..............
Unless someone knows a healthy bread for a fussy honey...............
 
Viper.. I hope your pain goes away......Thats really not a laughing matter, and were all here for you. And, were listening to your great advice.
 
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