wanna see what happens when.......

[Chris]

If you're over 40, there's only one strategy that works.

Stop hammering the carbs.

Don't eat anything after 7 PM.

Get off your ass.

Beer is the absolute worst- it's liquid bread. Maybe the best rule of thumb is this- if it tastes really good and you really like it, it's probably not doing you any favors diet-wise. I've eaten in alot of really amazing places and not once have I ever heard anyone raving about how great the carrots were.

 

[Chris]

you ever shoveled a 2 foot snow dump of wet snow from 2500 sq ft of driveway? Try it sometime and tell me its "not cardio" .

It almost as hard on the ticker as getting a 500lb snowmobile unstuck in 4 feet of snow which I would think counts as weight lifting too.

I used to think that too- until I spent some time talking to an exercise physiologist. Everyone has an ideal range. And everyone's is different. It's about finding that range and sustaining it on an ongoing, repetitive basis. And if you do go out and hammer away at some arduous task, popping 3 beers and a bag of Cheetos while you catch your breath nullifies the whole thing.

Bottom line- the only thing that works is permanent, sustainable lifestyle change. That's why few people dump 30 lbs and stay there. If they drop the weight and then feel the need to take a break or reward themselves, they'd have been better off dropping 10 and adapting to that lifestyle, then trying for another 10. Yo yo weight swings are very bad for you.

 

[viperfitness1]

Ok... so what do you consider cardio? Would fast stationary bike with some resistance be enough, assuming that my heart rate increased 50% and was sustained?
My diet does have to change. We eat too much carbs and too much fats at my house.

i define cardio for you (42 yo male) workouts as; your heart rate should stay at 145 bpm for the entire alotted time... there can be a little variation up or down but that is where you should see the maximum amount of fat cells released for energy... \

i would like you to go buy a book called (the Glycemic revolution) its a great book that will show you what are good and bad carbs and is full of recipes and meal examples...

you really need to have something that is going to motivate you to stick to the program... do you have any reason to lose the weight? other than certian early death!!!

 

[Tony]

Ok... so what do you consider cardio? Would fast stationary bike with some resistance be enough, assuming that my heart rate increased 50% and was sustained?
My diet does have to change. We eat too much carbs and too much fats at my house.

Buy an eliptical, you can pick up a good slightly used one for pennies off of Craigslist. Set it up in your basement where your laptop is at eye level so you can watch boat vids, buy a few Offspring and Prodigy CD's and have at it. My/ Donzi's eleptical has a beer holder built into it.:26:

 

[viperfitness1]

you ever shoveled a 2 foot snow dump of wet snow from 2500 sq ft of driveway? Try it sometime and tell me its "not cardio" .

It almost as hard on the ticker as getting a 500lb snowmobile unstuck in 4 feet of snow which I would think counts as weight lifting too.

unfortuantly airpacker that IS NOT cardio... its considered work. its not a good way to burn excess fat and there are much better ways to burn fat than shoveling a driveway for 2 hours. what would you do the next day when there is no snow???

 

[viperfitness1]

chris is exactly right about the lifestyle change!

that book is a great way to learn to live a different lifestlyle and it all has to do with the carbs you eat. for example... at my house we ONLY eat pumpernickle bread. it has the lowest GI index and has a lot less chance as storing as fat. its really good bread too. small changes in you life like that will make a huge difference

unfortunaly tho... we all usually eat past 7 and cant change that. its what you eat past 7 will make the differance. im not a big sopporter of denying yourself meals after a time of the day. it doesnt seem to have a lasting lifestyle effect and most will resort to gorging becuase they starve themselves .

 

[Davidmnc]

i define cardio for you (42 yo male) workouts as; your heart rate should stay at 145 bpm for the entire alotted time... there can be a little variation up or down but that is where you should see the maximum amount of fat cells released for energy... \

i would like you to go buy a book called (the Glycemic revolution) its a great book that will show you what are good and bad carbs and is full of recipes and meal examples...

you really need to have something that is going to motivate you to stick to the program... do you have any reason to lose the weight? other than certian early death!!!

This is good advice. I am in the loose some weight mode now also. Since Jan 1 I have last just shy of 20lbs. I have greatly reduced my carb intake, and have been spending 30 min a day 5 days a week on the stationary bike. I know I can do more, but this is all new to me. I just ordered this book from Amazon for $6.49 delivered. Thanks for the info, and more suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[viperfitness1]

This is good advice. I am in the loose some weight mode now also. Since Jan 1 I have last just shy of 20lbs. I have greatly reduced my carb intake, and have been spending 30 min a day 5 days a week on the stationary bike. I know I can do more, but this is all new to me. I just ordered this book from Amazon for $6.49 delivered. Thanks for the info, and more suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

20 pounds!!!?? that is awesome!! man i wish i could get those results out of everyone i help..

sounds to me like you are on a great start... i think the key to you keeping on a successful program is to keep you learning new things and ideas to not get bored with it.

first thing i would tell you to do is start varying you cardio now. you body is smart enough to realize you are going to do the same amount every day and will not release as much fat as your body gets into better shape. i like to trick my own body with a consestant change in my cardio programs. do you like to do any resistance traing??

 

[Davidmnc]

20 pounds!!!?? that is awesome!! man i wish i could get those results out of everyone i help..

sounds to me like you are on a great start... i think the key to you keeping on a successful program is to keep you learning new things and ideas to not get bored with it.

first thing i would tell you to do is start varying you cardio now. you body is smart enough to realize you are going to do the same amount every day and will not release as much fat as your body gets into better shape. i like to trick my own body with a consestant change in my cardio programs. do you like to do any resistance traing??

I have lost 20lbs, but have a way to go. I am 5'10" and weigh right at 245 now. I am new to this whole working out thing, so I don't have an answer for that. I am open to trying new things. What would you suggest?

 

[viperfitness1]

I have lost 20lbs, but have a way to go. I am 5'10" and weigh right at 245 now. I am new to this whole working out thing, so I don't have an answer for that. I am open to trying new things. What would you suggest?

well do you have a weight set or access to a gym? i would suggest a minimum of 3 days wieght traing to see the best results. but a simple resistance training program can be easlily added to a cardio workout if ya have about 10 extra min and it goes back to the basics.

 

[Davidmnc]

well do you have a weight set or access to a gym? i would suggest a minimum of 3 days wieght traing to see the best results. but a simple resistance training program can be easlily added to a cardio workout if ya have about 10 extra min and it goes back to the basics.

No weights, but I think my next step will be to join the local gym. I don't mind dedicating the time. I just really want to loose the weight. What do you think would be a reasonable goal?

 

[fund razor]

There is a lot of good advice here.

If I could eat at 5pm instead of starting to cook dinner at 7pm, that would be good.

I eat mostly whole grain bread but eat the white stuff when the girls buy it. I could eat pumpernickle. No prob. I can definately get off of my azz more too. Winter is tough for that up here. A cheap eliptical could be a good idea. I can definately step away from the beer, assuming that I can at least have some occasional liquor.

I'll bet that if I commit to a half hour of some cardio every day I would feel a lot better and not be fat.

My motivation? I am tired of being fat around the middle. I know that it is bad for me, my 75 year old father is much more healthy than me. He works out every day and has since he was in his 30s. I would look so much better in my shirts and ties without the spare tire. And, my belly would not lap over my belt. Which I hate. I guess I really want to do this before I get any older and it gets any harder. 43rd birthday is coming up. I don't want to think about heart disease quite yet. But if I don't change some things, I could be the next Tim Russert. I want to feel better. Looking better would be a bonus.

 

[viperfitness1]

No weights, but I think my next step will be to join the local gym. I don't mind dedicating the time. I just really want to loose the weight. What do you think would be a reasonable goal?

i think at this point joining a gym would be the most benifical thing you could do...

sounds to me you have already reached a great first goal! i would set yourself another 20 pound goal and take the steps to acheive that goal.

thats great you are looking for goals because that will give you something to strive for

 

[Davidmnc]

i think at this point joining a gym would be the most benifical thing you could do...

sounds to me you have already reached a great first goal! i would set yourself another 20 pound goal and take the steps to acheive that goal.

thats great you are looking for goals because that will give you something to strive for

I am also worried I am loosing the weight to fast. What is a good pace for weigth loss?

 

[viperfitness1]

There is a lot of good advice here.

If I could eat at 5pm instead of starting to cook dinner at 7pm, that would be good.

I eat mostly whole grain bread but eat the white stuff when the girls buy it. I could eat pumpernickle. No prob. I can definately get off of my azz more too. Winter is tough for that up here. A cheap eliptical could be a good idea. I can definately step away from the beer, assuming that I can at least have some occasional liquor.

I'll bet that if I commit to a half hour of some cardio every day I would feel a lot better and not be fat.

My motivation? I am tired of being fat around the middle. I know that it is bad for me, my 75 year old father is much more healthy than me. He works out every day and has since he was in his 30s. I would look so much better in my shirts and ties without the spare tire. And, my belly would not lap over my belt. Which I hate. I guess I really want to do this before I get any older and it gets any harder. 43rd birthday is coming up. I don't want to think about heart disease quite yet. But if I don't change some things, I could be the next Tim Russert. I want to feel better. Looking better would be a bonus.

fund its great you are recognizing what you need to do to be a more heathly. its unfortunate that a lot of people dont get that chance and die way to early in life.

buy that book! whole grain is not that great and in certian cases can be worse...

if you need anything just hit me up and i will help you get started in the right direction. heres my thing tho!! i will not help anyone who doesnt take it seriously. my time is way to important and i have way better things to do than help people who are lazy and want me to do all the work for them.

i hope and expect to hear from you soon...

 

[viperfitness1]

I am also worried I am loosing the weight to fast. What is a good pace for weigth loss?

to fast??? i dont really see that being a problem, unless you are 80 pounds and losing a pound a day. i dont think Anorexia and Beleamia are something you dont have to worry about for awile.

to answer the question...

its all relative to who it is and in your case i think that its about right

 

[Airpacker]

Heres a question for ya. I just turned 45 a couple days ago. I am 6 foot even, weigh 190 and have been that weight give or take a couple pounds for over 20 yrs. Wear a size 34 wais pant and have ever since college days. Can't grab much more than an inch of flab around the middle any where really. I do avoid soda ( or pop as we call it) and drink mostly water, a half quart of 2% moo moo juice, 2 coffees per day and beer ( usually only weekends ) but, I am sure my chosen diet is probably "bad" for me. Lots of dead animals, ( mainly chicken) occasional junk food but not too often, lots of indian and carribean type spicy foods, sushi, rice and lots o veggies too. I only eat twice per day, once around 10am and then dinner anywhere from 7:30 to 8:30 at night mon to fri. Weekends are a little better, 2 or 3 meals per day at more "normal times" although there are days when I just don't bother eating until dinner time because I just am not hungry. ( is that screwed or what)

My question is this, at what age will I wake up and look like Homer Simpson?

No, seriously, I have noticed a little beer belly starting although it doesn't really seem to be fat as per say, just the abs getting lazy? Definately not a go to the gym type person. Work 12 to 14 hrs a day and sometimes longer and have a family at home that still likes to see me from time to time so dedicating gym time just doesn't add up for me.

What good and effective home excercises could you recommend to bring the stomach muscles back into shape? Sit ups, crunches type stuff or are there more efficient programs that I could do?

 

[fund razor]

fund its great you are recognizing what you need to do to be a more heathly. its unfortunate that a lot of people dont get that chance and die way to early in life.

buy that book! whole grain is not that great and in certian cases can be worse...

if you need anything just hit me up and i will help you get started in the right direction. heres my thing tho!! i will not help anyone who doesnt take it seriously. my time is way to important and i have way better things to do than help people who are lazy and want me to do all the work for them.

i hope and expect to hear from you soon...

That is very cool of you. I am interested in that book. My dad had a book in the 80s called "the sugar blues" or something like that. Probably a similar take on the types of energy and how each is burned vs stored. I will check it out. I won't waste your time, but it is kind of good that I have said it out loud because now you will call me on it if I drop the ball. It is easier to tell myself that I will start getting busy tomorrow than to tell you that I haven't started yet.
That's funny... the whole hijack started because you were having trouble getting your fit on with that toe. So... something good came of it. Whoo hoo.

Thanks for the input. The only other advice that I have had lately was from Wii fit. And it said I was overweight but my fit age was only 37. I credit sea legs on that whole balancing thing.

 

[Buoy]

Fund, (and anyone else who has met me) I guess I have NO place in this thread at this point, aside from to participate in the Hi-Jack.

I'm 5'11" ~160
I don't have to worry at all about what I eat, and drink plenty of beer - albeit light beer. I don't work out, and I've been basically a desk jockey for the past 6 years.

I have gone through the losing the toenail thing more than once though.
Back in my construction years, it was just bound to happen every few years if not wearing steel toes.

 

[fund razor]

Fund, (and anyone else who has met me) I guess I have NO place in this thread at this point, aside from to participate in the Hi-Jack.

I'm 5'11" ~160
I don't have to worry at all about what I eat, and drink plenty of beer - albeit light beer. I don't work out, and I've been basically a desk jockey for the past 6 years.

Tim belongs to the Marlboro Health and Fitness Club. :sifone: