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Ratickle
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The tide is maybe starting to turn? NY Times, Poll actually conducted by Harvard
Poll Finds Young People Souring on Health Law and Obama
Sheryl Gay Stolberg
WASHINGTON — A majority of 18- to 29-year-olds – a constituency crucial to the success of President Obama’s health overhaul — disapprove of the law, and fewer than a third of those who are uninsured are likely to sign up for coverage, according to a new poll by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics.
The survey, released Wednesday, also found a stark drop in Mr. Obama’s approval ratings among those so-called millennial voters, who have long been his most ardent supporters.
Just 41 percent now approve of the president, down from 52 percent in October 2012, a finding that puts young voters more in keeping with the general population. The younger half of the cohort, those 18 to 24, tilts increasingly conservative; the poll found that 52 percent of this group — many of them too young to have voted for Mr. Obama when he first ran in 2008 — would vote to recall him from office if they could.
http://www.nytimes.com/news/afforda...-people-souring-on-health-law-and-obama/?_r=0
52% of those 18 to 24 would vote to recall Obama if they could!:26:
Poll Finds Young People Souring on Health Law and Obama
Sheryl Gay Stolberg
WASHINGTON — A majority of 18- to 29-year-olds – a constituency crucial to the success of President Obama’s health overhaul — disapprove of the law, and fewer than a third of those who are uninsured are likely to sign up for coverage, according to a new poll by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics.
The survey, released Wednesday, also found a stark drop in Mr. Obama’s approval ratings among those so-called millennial voters, who have long been his most ardent supporters.
Just 41 percent now approve of the president, down from 52 percent in October 2012, a finding that puts young voters more in keeping with the general population. The younger half of the cohort, those 18 to 24, tilts increasingly conservative; the poll found that 52 percent of this group — many of them too young to have voted for Mr. Obama when he first ran in 2008 — would vote to recall him from office if they could.
http://www.nytimes.com/news/afforda...-people-souring-on-health-law-and-obama/?_r=0
52% of those 18 to 24 would vote to recall Obama if they could!:26:
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Oops,
Obamacare supporters are celebrating the news that 29,000 people signed up for Obamacare on Sunday and Monday — the first days since the re-launch of the HealthCare.gov website. Calling it an “enrollment surge,” Obama officials gushed to POLITICO that this figure “surpasses the total for the whole month of October” and “provide the clearest evidence yet that the federal exchange is on the mend.”
29,000 may have signed up for Obamacare, but as of Monday about 5.6 million Americans have had their health insurance cancelled because of Obamacare.
Moreover, it’s the Post reported yesterday that the website is still failing to transmit enrollment information to insurers, or is sending inaccurate or incomplete data, meaning that many who think they’ve bought policies actually have not. These enrollment errors, the Post reports, “cumulatively have affected roughly one third of the people who have signed up for health plans since Oct. 1.”
That still leaves them about 5.4 million short if they are to get all the folks they have driven out of their individual market plans covered.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-obamacare-sign-ups-are-nothing-to-celebrate/
Obamacare supporters are celebrating the news that 29,000 people signed up for Obamacare on Sunday and Monday — the first days since the re-launch of the HealthCare.gov website. Calling it an “enrollment surge,” Obama officials gushed to POLITICO that this figure “surpasses the total for the whole month of October” and “provide the clearest evidence yet that the federal exchange is on the mend.”
29,000 may have signed up for Obamacare, but as of Monday about 5.6 million Americans have had their health insurance cancelled because of Obamacare.
Moreover, it’s the Post reported yesterday that the website is still failing to transmit enrollment information to insurers, or is sending inaccurate or incomplete data, meaning that many who think they’ve bought policies actually have not. These enrollment errors, the Post reports, “cumulatively have affected roughly one third of the people who have signed up for health plans since Oct. 1.”
That still leaves them about 5.4 million short if they are to get all the folks they have driven out of their individual market plans covered.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-obamacare-sign-ups-are-nothing-to-celebrate/
fund razor
Founding Member
Stopped himself from what?
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Obamacare is so bad, and the things are coming out that are worse than what has been implemented so far, that 52% of 18 to 24 year olds polled would vote to remove him from office in a recall election if possible. That's an amazing turnaround from those who were actually one of the biggest groups to put him in office.
Speaking of how bad, my wife just got her new insurance reduction plan to keep her insurance out of the "Cadillac" status for her company. It SUCKS!!!! As close as we can tell, this year would have cost us an almost additional $26,000 out of pocket for the reduction in insurance. Things that were $100 co-pay are now covered at 60%. Like an MRI which was over $4000 for her last one. Emergency room visit was $100 co-pay before is now 80% covered, etc.
These things won't go into the cancelled insurance numbers out there, but it is still a cancellation of a good policy into a crappy one to fit into the Obama idiocy mandate.
Her company has over 28,000 employees who are also getting the same reduction in quality of coverage.
Speaking of how bad, my wife just got her new insurance reduction plan to keep her insurance out of the "Cadillac" status for her company. It SUCKS!!!! As close as we can tell, this year would have cost us an almost additional $26,000 out of pocket for the reduction in insurance. Things that were $100 co-pay are now covered at 60%. Like an MRI which was over $4000 for her last one. Emergency room visit was $100 co-pay before is now 80% covered, etc.
These things won't go into the cancelled insurance numbers out there, but it is still a cancellation of a good policy into a crappy one to fit into the Obama idiocy mandate.
Her company has over 28,000 employees who are also getting the same reduction in quality of coverage.
old377guy
Charter Member
I went to one of his rallies out here back in '04. I mostly liked his message but he kind of went doctrinaire on some of his talking points; seemed to have a bit of "wacky" going on as well.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Amazing how bad one idiot can make this country look. "Let's do selfie's at the funeral!"
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
A look at the quotes that defined the year, with the president's admission that a pledge he made "ended up not being accurate" topping the list.
NEW HAVEN, Conn. — President Barack Obama's acknowledgement that his promise that Americans could keep their health insurance plan turned out to be inaccurate topped this year's list of best quotes, according to a Yale University librarian.....
NEW HAVEN, Conn. — President Barack Obama's acknowledgement that his promise that Americans could keep their health insurance plan turned out to be inaccurate topped this year's list of best quotes, according to a Yale University librarian.....
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
To many around the world, it made little sense: The world's most powerful government, so mired in dysfunction that it couldn't operate. The world's defender of individual freedoms, accused of spying on its citizens and friends. The world's military giant planning, then balking at, an armed response to the suspected use of deadly chemical weapons.
Former U.S. secretary of state Madeleine Albright once dubbed the United States "the indispensable nation." But as the world watched America shamble through a string of crises in 2013, the notion of the U.S. as an unflappable leader began to seem ever more quaint.
Instead, to hear some around the world tell it, the United States came off looking uncertain, unmoored and even untrustworthy. Unsettling, to say the least, for a global audience of people who understand that when America sneezes, the world catches a cold.
The National Security Agency spying scandal and the government shutdown created, for some, a contradictory image of the United States: a bully when dealing with others, a weakling when dealing with itself. "They are," in the words of Denmark university student Julie Simonsen, "like a colossus with feet of clay."
"When I was a child, America was a dream country. It was a country we admired as a role model," says Chieko Kotani, a 51-year-old tourism worker in Tokyo. "Over the past year, however, I think America's status in the international community has declined. It seems to have lost its leadership quite a bit."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/america-bumpy-2013-wary-world-watches-21199759
Former U.S. secretary of state Madeleine Albright once dubbed the United States "the indispensable nation." But as the world watched America shamble through a string of crises in 2013, the notion of the U.S. as an unflappable leader began to seem ever more quaint.
Instead, to hear some around the world tell it, the United States came off looking uncertain, unmoored and even untrustworthy. Unsettling, to say the least, for a global audience of people who understand that when America sneezes, the world catches a cold.
The National Security Agency spying scandal and the government shutdown created, for some, a contradictory image of the United States: a bully when dealing with others, a weakling when dealing with itself. "They are," in the words of Denmark university student Julie Simonsen, "like a colossus with feet of clay."
"When I was a child, America was a dream country. It was a country we admired as a role model," says Chieko Kotani, a 51-year-old tourism worker in Tokyo. "Over the past year, however, I think America's status in the international community has declined. It seems to have lost its leadership quite a bit."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/america-bumpy-2013-wary-world-watches-21199759
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Federal judge says NSA program appears to violate Constitution
A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency’s gathering of data on all telephone calls made in the United States appears to violate the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches.
The judge, Richard Leon of U.S. District Court in Washington, said that the NSA relied on “almost-Orwellian technology” that would have been unimaginable a generation ago, at the time of a landmark Supreme Court decision on phone records.
Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush, ruled in favor of two Americans who challenged the NSA program and wanted their data removed from NSA records. The judge found that the two were likely to prevail under the Fourth Amendment, the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
The judge put his ruling on hold to allow the government to appeal. White House press secretary Jay Carney was asked about the ruling at a briefing shortly after it became public and said that he was not yet aware of it.
A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency’s gathering of data on all telephone calls made in the United States appears to violate the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches.
The judge, Richard Leon of U.S. District Court in Washington, said that the NSA relied on “almost-Orwellian technology” that would have been unimaginable a generation ago, at the time of a landmark Supreme Court decision on phone records.
Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush, ruled in favor of two Americans who challenged the NSA program and wanted their data removed from NSA records. The judge found that the two were likely to prevail under the Fourth Amendment, the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
The judge put his ruling on hold to allow the government to appeal. White House press secretary Jay Carney was asked about the ruling at a briefing shortly after it became public and said that he was not yet aware of it.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Another of the idiots winner ideas...
Brent crude futures, the benchmark for more than half the world’s oil, rose as much as 1.8 percent to $110.80 a barrel in London today, the biggest intraday gain in two weeks, after Libyan rebels refused to relinquish control over oil ports to the central government. Libya, home to Africa’s largest proven reserves, has seen output tumble to the lowest since 2011 amid civil strife.
Brent crude futures, the benchmark for more than half the world’s oil, rose as much as 1.8 percent to $110.80 a barrel in London today, the biggest intraday gain in two weeks, after Libyan rebels refused to relinquish control over oil ports to the central government. Libya, home to Africa’s largest proven reserves, has seen output tumble to the lowest since 2011 amid civil strife.
Bobcat
Founding Member
I haven't vetted this, but it is interesting. The link to the original has been taken down by Wiki.
4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney. This really should get your "gray matter" to churning, if you are an Obama fan. I wouldn't want my hero to be made out to be a liar, would you?
For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, theKapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.
4 Simple Questions
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama birth as August 4, 1961 and lists Barack Hussein Obama as his
father. No big deal, Right ?
At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25
years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".
This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that
Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years AFTER Obama's
birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father
have been born in a country that did not yet Exist? Up and until Kenya
was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa
Protectorate". (check it below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)
3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place
of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because in 1961 the hospital(s) in question were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be
on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
(CHECK IT BELOW)
http://http/http/www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx>
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)
Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?
4. Another clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of
birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds. (Honest, I did that without a
calculator!!!) Now history verifies that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of
WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his
imagination or political purposes--which, would, indeed still qualify as a liar?
Very truly yours,
Rich
RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB
Attorney at Law
354 Eisenhower Parkway
Livingston , NJ 07039
AV (r)
Preeminent(tm)rated since 1981
Highest Possible Peer Distinction
(973) 533-0077
Fax (973)
533-1565
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney. This really should get your "gray matter" to churning, if you are an Obama fan. I wouldn't want my hero to be made out to be a liar, would you?
For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, theKapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.
4 Simple Questions
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama birth as August 4, 1961 and lists Barack Hussein Obama as his
father. No big deal, Right ?
At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25
years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".
This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that
Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years AFTER Obama's
birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father
have been born in a country that did not yet Exist? Up and until Kenya
was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa
Protectorate". (check it below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)
3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place
of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because in 1961 the hospital(s) in question were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be
on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
(CHECK IT BELOW)
http://http/http/www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx>
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)
Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?
4. Another clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of
birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds. (Honest, I did that without a
calculator!!!) Now history verifies that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of
WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his
imagination or political purposes--which, would, indeed still qualify as a liar?
Very truly yours,
Rich
RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB
Attorney at Law
354 Eisenhower Parkway
Livingston , NJ 07039
AV (r)
Preeminent(tm)rated since 1981
Highest Possible Peer Distinction
(973) 533-0077
Fax (973)
533-1565
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
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