The morning after, now what?

[Serious News]

It was that way, Clinton actually put it into effect here, but Obama executive ordered the workfare out of existence.



Obama Ends Welfare Reform as We Know It, Calls for $12.7 Trillion in New Welfare Spending
Robert Rector July 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Last Thursday, the Obama Administration quietly issued new bureaucratic rules that overturned the popular welfare reform law of 1996.

 

[poncho]

It was that way, Clinton actually put it into effect here, but Obama executive ordered the workfare out of existence.



Obama Ends Welfare Reform as We Know It, Calls for $12.7 Trillion in New Welfare Spending
Robert Rector July 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Last Thursday, the Obama Administration quietly issued new bureaucratic rules that overturned the popular welfare reform law of 1996.

BC is pretty liberal but very conservative when it comes to welfare. Meant to say earlier that our $10.25min wage makes working a much better choice then our welfare system. If we stopped the looking for work requirement the average citizen would go nuts. Last election the socialist wanted to raise welfare and that's one of the reasons they lost.

 

[Bobcat]

 

[Bobcat]

 

[Ratickle]

BC is pretty liberal but very conservative when it comes to welfare. Meant to say earlier that our $10.25min wage makes working a much better choice then our welfare system. If we stopped the looking for work requirement the average citizen would go nuts. Last election the socialist wanted to raise welfare and that's one of the reasons they lost.

The biggest problem here is not the lower minimum wage than Canada's. The big issue here is we gave, Clinton did, China permanent most favored trading status where the maximum import tax on products from them is about 30% of the tax and regulations cost of manufacturing the same product in the US. So, every time we raise the minimum wage, imports in comparison become cheaper to make so more jobs are lost so more people need government assistance so minimum wage is again raised (along with taxes) etc. etc. You guys didn't do anything nearly as stupid as that just to get millions of dollars of donations for elections and your charity (to get paid huge money to manage) after you're out of office.

A new example is energy costs. We tax the crap out of, and require huge investments in clean water and clean air controls, to meet government requirements for "Global Warming" reductions. So, since it cost too much to make it here, the manufacture of the exact same products goes over to China where there are zero controls for air and water and the planet is polluted about 10 times worse than if it were made here with our current pollution controls. STUPID

 

[fund razor]

The unaffordable care act, continued:

You won't have to change doctors.

(Unless you have to change doctors.)

You won't have to change insurance.

(Unless you are one of the millions of people about to get dropped.)

We will provide coverage for the uninsured.

(By taxing those with coverage for having coverage.)

 

[Ratickle]

My wife's company was going to cancel all of their insurance, or lessen it dramatically, because it hits the so-called "Cadillac" status;

The tax kicks in once an employer-sponsored plan is valued at over $10,200 for an individual and 27,500 for a family, according to The Washington Post. The employer pays a 40 percent tax on the difference between the threshold and the value of the plan.

and there is no way they can afford the additional 40% on their thousands of employees. Now the postponement moves it out another year so she gets to keep it for one more year, then they will lose their insurance as it currently is. There will be at least as many who lose their insurance when this part of the "ACT" kicks in as there is currently because of the stupid requirements put into the "Act" by a complete friggin idiot....

 

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[Ratickle]

A study by the Pioneer Institute estimates that the tax will be imposed on the health insurance benefits of more than 50 percent of Massachusetts workers, including small business owners, teachers, and police officers.

At least they deserve it for voting for their idiot senators .....

 

[Ratickle]

The White House knew all along: Most Americans with individual health insurance plans will get cancellation notices under Obamacare
President Obama has promised for 4 years that individual health insurance policies will be 'grandfathered' in so they won't change under Obamacare

But the IRS wrote in June 2010 that 40 to 67 per cent' of those policies will 'relinquish their grandfather status' anyway
NBC News found sources close to the Obamacare planning table who put that number as high as 80 per cent
Millions of Americans are already receiving cancellation notices from their insurers
The White House conceded Monday that 'it's true' many plans don't meet Obamacare's minimum standards, so Americans won't get to keep them
The revelations come as the Obama administration is already under fire for the Obamacare website's horrendous launch on October 1

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ellation-notices-Obamacare.html#ixzz2jAloF1Ge
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Latest News - October 29, 2013


Report: White House Knew Millions Would Lose Existing Policies


An NBC News report says the Obama administration knew that millions of U.S. residents with coverage in the individual market would lose their plans under the Affordable Care Act. The White House did not dispute the claim, but argued the report is misleading and not a new development. NBC News et al.

 

[Bobcat]

Don't worry, the Immigration Bill is going to make us wish we were still talking about Owebamacare.

 

[Ratickle]

Census Bureau: Means-Tested Gov't Benefit Recipients Outnumber Full-Time Year-Round Workers

October 24, 2013 - 11:32 PM

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By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - Americans who were recipients of means-tested government benefits in 2011 outnumbered year-round full-time workers, according to data released this month by the Census Bureau.
They also out-numbered the total population of the Philippines.

There were 108,592,000 people in the United States in the fourth quarter of 2011 who were recipients of one or more means-tested government benefit programs, the Census Bureau said in data released this week. Meanwhile, according to the Census Bureau, there were 101,716,000 people who worked full-time year round in 2011. That included both private-sector and government workers.

That means there were about 1.07 people getting some form of means-tested government benefit for every 1 person working full-time year round.

The Census Bureau counted as recipients of means-tested government programs “anyone residing in a household in which one or more people received benefits from the program.” Many of these people lived in households receiving more than one form of means-tested benefit at the same time.

Among the 108,592,000 people who fit the Census Bureau’s description of a means-tested benefit recipient in the fourth quarter of 2011 were 82,457,000 people in households receiving Medicaid, 49,073,000 beneficiaries of food stamps, 20,223,000 on Supplemental Security Income, 23,228,000 in the Women, Infants and Children program, 13,433,000 in public or subsidized rental housing, and 5,854,000 in the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Also among the 108,592,000 means-tested benefit recipients counted by the Census Bureau were people getting free or reduced-price lunch or breakfast, state-administered supplemental security income and means-tested veterans pensions.

The 108,592,000 people who were recipients of means-tested government programs in the fourth quarter of 2011 does not include people who received benefits from non-means-tested government programs but not from means-tested ones. That would include, for example, people who received Social Security, Medicare, unemployment, or non-means-tested veterans compensation, but did not receive benefits from a means-tested program such as food stamps or public housing.
..- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...ecipients-outnumber-full#sthash.cmHQ0ftg.dpuf

 

[fund razor]

"It never crashed." -Kathleen Sebeliar

 

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(CBS News) WASHINGTON - One of the mysteries of the problems with the Obamacare website is why Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius would give the "all clear" after the system failed, repeatedly, during tests days before its debut.


CBS News has learned the website failed with a small test pool of 200 to 300 people that included employees from the government and insurance companies. The government employees worked at their own computers and desks within the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversaw the health care implementation.



According to sources familiar with the process, CMS employees were provided fake personal information to enter into HealthCare.gov rather than their own data and were given a date that testing would begin. However, on that date, the employees were told it was being postponed.


Calls to delay Obamacare enrollment deadline growing CBS News has learned the Obamacare website failed in testing just before launch.

When the testing finally took place in late September, the testers started trying to create an application. Just a couple of pages into the process, everything "ground to a stop," said one source.


"It froze. It couldn't go forward. It crashed," the source said.


A couple of days later, testers tried again and had a similar outcome. They were never able to successfully browse plans for cost estimates.


"It was unequivocally clear from testing ... this wasn't ready," said a source close to the testing.


Tavenner Marilyn Tavenner, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, testified Tuesday on Capitol Hill that she had no idea just before launch that the website problems were so bad.

The account is in stark contrast to the testimony Tuesday from Marilyn Tavenner, the head of CMS. She testified under oath she had no idea prior to Oct. 1 that the problems were so bad.


"We had tested the website, and we were comfortable with its performance," Tavenner said. " The volume issue and the creation of account issues was not anticipated and obviously took us by surprise and did not show up in testing."


One question this raises: Was the head of CMS unaware of the results of the testing that took place inside her own agency just days before the launch?

 

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And in an earlier article at CNN Money titled Security hole found in Obamacare website, it was also reported that a cybersecurity expert discovered a security flaw that went unaddressed for more than three weeks after healthcare.gov’s launch.

Until the Department of Health fixed the security hole last week, anyone could easily reset your Healthcare.gov password without your knowledge and potentially hijack your account.

The glitch was discovered last week by Ben Simo, a software tester in Arizona. Simo found that gaining access to people’s accounts was frighteningly simple. You could have:
•guessed an existing user name, and the website would have confirmed it exists.
•claimed you forgot your password, and the site would have reset it.
•viewed the site’s unencrypted source code in any browser to find the password reset code.
•plugged in the user name and reset code, and the website would have displayed a person’s three security questions (your oldest niece’s first name, name of favorite pet, date of wedding anniversary, etc.).
•answered the security questions wrong, and the website would have spit out the account owner’s email address — again, unencrypted.

Armed with the account holder’s email address, a person with malicious intent could easily track down their target on social media, where they’d likely discover the answers to those security questions.

 

[Bobcat]

I wouldn't be to surprised if Sebeliar was in some sort of accident this week....this regime is evil.

 

[rschap1]

We are getting f'd hard and the f'ers did not even give us a reach around first

 

[Bobcat]

 

[Ratickle]

The White House ✔ @WhiteHouse

Obama: "Oregon has covered 10% of its uninsured citizens already...Arkansas has covered almost 14% of its uninsured." #Obamacare

4:18 PM - 30 Oct 2013

What an idiot.

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A month after Oregon’s problem-plagued online health insurance marketplace has failed to enroll a single person, concerns are mounting that some of the most vulnerable Oregonians may face a break in coverage if they don’t enroll within the next month and a half.

To date, the state has received just 4,260 paper applications as part of the national health care overhaul law, and the Cover Oregon website still can’t tell people what subsidies they are eligible to receive.