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Thad Allen's Apache + The Birth of the Cheetah Cat
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Steve 1
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It is amazing to work with the loft and the scrive board and then thinking about how far the Old Guys took this in the days of wooden ships and the early Aircraft business. Powerful tool for a small shop.. I repaid the people who taught me by teaching others .
Ratickle
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And you still are. Thanks
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In Picture #47 you can see long cleats they have that Batten bent around,Now to the right of my Loft here there are some lofting aids.
They are called pickup pointers and rocker sticks , Now in the case of say the Keel which can be picked up directly off the loft without having to develop its shape.
The rocker sticks allowed me to scoot a piece of plywood under the batten and quickly mark the Keel profile on it also recording the station lines at the same time.
They are called pickup pointers and rocker sticks , Now in the case of say the Keel which can be picked up directly off the loft without having to develop its shape.
The rocker sticks allowed me to scoot a piece of plywood under the batten and quickly mark the Keel profile on it also recording the station lines at the same time.
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Ratickle
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I've always been fascinated by the old wooden ships. I have plank on plank models of the Coast Guard Eagle, Sea Witch, Mayflower, Constitution, Victory, Santa Maria, Flying Cloud, Cutty Sark, Endeavour, Thermopylae, a Boston Cutter, and the America's Cup boat Columbia.
May have missed a couple.......:sifone:
Can't imagine building one of the big clippers......
May have missed a couple.......:sifone:
Can't imagine building one of the big clippers......
Jassman
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I will say the best finished hull..., non rippled, no waves, no bulkheads peaking out of the sides covered by fancy paint jobs...were the 33 PP..I have yet to see a boat this flawless..Jeff
Steve 1
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Jeff that was done with metal backed sanding tools,Then two weeks were spent finessing the inverted hull mold,which which was lit with daylight fluorescents placed so nothing could escape being seen no matter how impossibly small.
Every time I turned around there was Danny under there with me, He had a dam good eye.
Every time I turned around there was Danny under there with me, He had a dam good eye.
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Jassman
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He built one of the finest products in his time..but..unfortunitly he many down falls.. I almost bought a 38..right before the 37AVH..
cowisl
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i have not found one wave on our 38'
Steve 1
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What happened on the 38 there were a number of changes Danny made first we cut fabric patterns so the overlaps were very controlled and the laminate thickness and it repeated exactly from layup to layup,Then the resin curing system was moved around from a straight MEKP to a (CHP) Cumine Hydroperoxide blended system for better control of the heat (this is used by industry to control the exothermic heat created by very thick Parts)
What happens is the piece warms up during cure, plastics(thermosetting plastics) our basic resins like to expand across the county anyway, then cooling in a cured state a nasty gremlin occurs in between called thermo pulling which leaves these nasty marks and residual stresses .
Dan then bagged full plain sheets of Corecell in the sides and deck of the 38's.
What happens is the piece warms up during cure, plastics(thermosetting plastics) our basic resins like to expand across the county anyway, then cooling in a cured state a nasty gremlin occurs in between called thermo pulling which leaves these nasty marks and residual stresses .
Dan then bagged full plain sheets of Corecell in the sides and deck of the 38's.
Steve 1
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I have heard several stories, one it sat outside for years.
Jassman
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There was one being built.. Robbies boat..that was the first one..and was being told it was finished come take a look..never was, not even close.. What I saw I liked..but its hard to buy a boat that you have not ridden in or anyone else as a matter of fact. Danny was tough to deal with, arogant and put down every builder out there..especially A.T, probabl cause I mentioned them...which was one of my other choices..so I drove to Pat at A.T. and bought later that evening..My AT Boat was built and still finished before the 38 PP was finished. I had many conversations with Robbie and in the end he got a beautiful boat..We had the same power KE 675's. Personally I love the boat.. the 38PP..and want it to come back..It's the perfect blend of size, cabin height, look, could be brought to the next level. The only other boat of equal size or close was the 37 OL..another awesome boat..I just have seen so many 33's over the years, and they are all the same as to the quality..I have not seen to many 38's...to anwser your Q...
Jassman
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I believe Pat Sullivan and Tom Mason owns them..but dont quote me..
Steve 1
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That is what I was told also.
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