Thad Allen's Apache + The Birth of the Cheetah Cat

[Steve 1]

Dave , Artie Here is my personal Flats Boat 18 Feet all up bagging Dow 470-36 Resin 1'airex core 450# hull and deck, 37 Gallon composite tank in the Bow, the polling platform is also composite as it's legs witch were hi density Foam made in a kind of an oval shape with unidirectional s bagged around them ,I had built a large box spar inside between them to keep everything honest.

The Gelcoat was a white fade to blue on the sides,the boot stripe is a flop of that, white Bottom, Cool boat 50+ with a 70.

The colors remember this was from the Miami Vice days

This Boat was from a panel built Plug.

 

[Ratickle]

Dave , Artie Here is my personal Flats Boat 18 Feet all up bagging Dow 470-36 Resin 1'airex core 450# hull and deck, 37 Gallon composite tank in the Bow, the polling platform is also composite as it's legs witch were hi density Foam made in a kind of an oval shape with unidirectional s bagged around them ,I had built a large box spar inside between them to keep everything honest.

The Gelcoat was a white fade to blue on the sides,the boot stripe is a flop of that, white Bottom, Cool boat 50+ with a 70.

The colors remember this was from the Miami Vice days

This Boat was from a panel built Plug.

I think a new build thread would be cool.

More pictures too.....

 

[Steve 1]

I think a new build thread would be cool.

More pictures too.....

I am waiting on the final pictures for this thread,which are slow coming,Dave and I were talking unis and that polling platform was built out of that material.

 

[glassdave]

nice stuff Stave, Love the wing shape platform. bet it looked cool behind the blue El Camino


I have been doing a lot of thinking about the uni laminates. Some things are making more sense now, coming from the collision/repair side of glass work i guess it never really occurred to me about the versatility a single ply gives you when coupled with your method of lofting moldless. Basically limitless and you achieve a very strong efficient structure. Steve i know you probably have made more advancements in the process but are there others that use similar methods? I assume it is a lost art with CNC these days. Historically i have only been exposed to lofting plugs and pulling molds then making the actual part. Was this moldless process sort of a progression from some of the methods used in making boats like the wood Cougars? Again, thanks for the history lessons.

 

[Steve 1]

nice stuff Stave, Love the wing shape platform. bet it looked cool behind the blue El Camino


I have been doing a lot of thinking about the uni laminates. Some things are making more sense now, coming from the collision/repair side of glass work i guess it never really occurred to me about the versatility a single ply gives you when coupled with your method of lofting moldless. Basically limitless and you achieve a very strong efficient structure. Steve i know you probably have made more advancements in the process but are there others that use similar methods? I assume it is a lost art with CNC these days. Historically i have only been exposed to lofting plugs and pulling molds then making the actual part. Was this moldless process sort of a progression from some of the methods used in making boats like the wood Cougars? Again, thanks for the history lessons.

That was a old Boat from the 80's, The one off in my work came from trashing hundreds of thousand dollars in the plug business after the Mold was pulled when I could have had a usable boat in the end was my initial mentality.

the uni's squeegeed out are pretty close to a wet bagged laminate on a repair so it is handy to keep some in stock,the pipes on my glass rack were long and there was always a roll of unidirectional there.

The Cat thread coming up I was looking at everything including the dust in the air so to speak, that first boat was all consuming in the planning stages there was no room for anything that did not belong there, everything had a exact weight allowance right down to the fairing compounds which I shop made,plus the Cat was on the scales every day.

A friend I was buying material from wrote a book One Off Airex Construction as well back in those days. Please excuse the book it got a bath in hurricane Wilma.

 

[Offshore Ginger]

Steve , ole friend , great stuff in post's 550 -554 -& 549 . I apologize for not getting back with you sooner and to a lot of other people on this forum . Steve , great stuff and keep it coming because i really appreciate your pics and wish i would have taken more pics of all the projects that i worked on at Skater doing the 28 , 36 , 40 , and 46 to name a few . Steve , all in all i wish i would have gotten to know you at a much earlier time in my life and not that im regretting anything that i have done in the past weather i would have been a student or just a former colleague of yours , i feel we would have had a very good working & strong relationship.......... because all good minds think alike ,even glassdave ha ha ha just a joke my friend .

 

[Steve 1]

Steve , ole friend , great stuff in post's 550 -554 -& 549 . I apologize for not getting back with you sooner and to a lot of other people on this forum . Steve , great stuff and keep it coming because i really appreciate your pics and wish i would have taken more pics of all the projects that i worked on at Skater doing the 28 , 36 , 40 , and 46 to name a few . Steve , all in all i wish i would have gotten to know you at a much earlier time in my life and not that im regretting anything that i have done in the past weather i would been a student or just a former colleague of yours , i feel we would have had a very good working & strong relationship.......... because all good minds think alike .

Artie it would have been My pleasure to work with you ,Thank you and the and the SOS members for the positive reply's.

 

[Offshore Ginger]

:bump::bump: Steve , you got to know that some of us are just crying for your next thresd on Cats , including myself , considering ............. some of us, have spent many years building and working on Cats .............. Hey .

 

[phragle]

Steve , ole friend , great stuff in post's 550 -554 -& 549 . I apologize for not getting back with you sooner and to a lot of other people on this forum . Steve , great stuff and keep it coming because i really appreciate your pics and wish i would have taken more pics of all the projects that i worked on at Skater doing the 28 , 36 , 40 , and 46 to name a few . Steve , all in all i wish i would have gotten to know you at a much earlier time in my life and not that im regretting anything that i have done in the past weather i would have been a student or just a former colleague of yours , i feel we would have had a very good working & strong relationship.......... because all good minds think alike ,even glassdave ha ha ha just a joke my friend .

I have seen GlassDave think...It can be kind of scarey.
entertaining though... :sifone:

 

[Steve 1]

LOL Artie My old friend, I have to do a little more preparation is all then I will post a new Thread..

 

[Offshore Ginger]

I have seen GlassDave think...It can be kind of scarey.
entertaining though... :sifone:

Just curious , seeing that i was employed many years at Skater , crewed with Cat Can Doo , offshore race team and repaired the old Jelly belly Gone Again and Carlos n Charlies X- tream , what ever do you mean by being scarey :seeya::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: like there is something we do not already know :rofl::rofl: and how long before Dave , replys to this post .:rofl:

 

[Offshore Ginger]

Dave are you in warp mood ..............................:bump: hello

 

[Offshore Ginger]

Phrangle , all in all a very good last post .:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::biggrinjester::seeya:

 

[Sean Stinson]

Audio More from Steve 2 Something smaller?

Steve do you have a mold for this or will you build it on the floor like you did the one 41????

 

[Steve 1]

Sean ,That I build as a one off that way we can move things around a little for the customer. Build the hull on a male fixture (Kind of like the 41)and the deck in a female Like the Cheetahcat 8's

 

[Sean Stinson]

Sean ,That I build as a one off that way we can move things around a little for the customer. Build the hull on a male fixture (Kind of like the 41)and the deck in a female Like the Cheetahcat 8's

Nice that would be a great lake racer!!!!

 

[Steve 1]

Nice that would be a great lake racer!!!!

We have a couple variants of that Boat, another with a single step as well.

 

[Steve 1]

Here is a another:

 

[glassdave]

what software were those done in? I use Corel with similar results but have been working to switch to Rhino (3D).

 

[Steve 1]

what software were those done in? I use Corel with similar results but have been working to switch to Rhino (3D).

Hi Dave A lot of people use Rhino, Steve 2 does the renderings and is a Mac Guy I am not sure of his software type, I use a PC and need just Autocad that gets me to the Loft. He will Log in and answer you .Take care old friend.