all right back to the meeting, hogs breath is always packed, especially during happy hour, most places on duval will be crowded, cowboy bills is another option, it is large 4 bars I think, and they usually don't get packed until ten at night , 2 dollar rolling rock & 1 dollar PBR at all times(not just happy hour) trying to think of a place that is outdoors, nobody comes to key west to drink in a closed mall type bar. still like turtle kraals for the view of the harbor & all the hardware that will be parked there.