Ratickle
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And I'm saying there were reasons the boats went into the barns. Try to figure out why, and work on improvements to lure them back out.
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And I'm saying there were reasons the boats went into the barns. Try to figure out why, and work on improvements to lure them back out.
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LOL,,,,if racing is only about racing ,,then we would need more then just faith.
IT IS AND WAS ALL ABOUT FUN ,,,and u know that !!!!!!!
Plus ,,like i said before Jim ,,,u watch me !!:sifone:
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easyer said then done !!!!!!
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
You have a very different view than I do.
It has always been about competition to me. No competition no fun.
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Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
The other thing I'm trying to point out, without playing any favorites whatsoever;
SBI averaged 8 "P" boats per race this season, with a low count of 4 boats total in the combined "P" classes at the Miami event.
OPA averaged 25 "P" boats per race this season, with a low count of 20 boats in the combined "P" classes at the Point Pleasant event.
Just review and disseminate what is currently working, that's all. The Florida events should be packed with P boats. Just look at the classifieds of where performance offshore boats are for sale and the locations jump out at you.
SBI averaged 8 "P" boats per race this season, with a low count of 4 boats total in the combined "P" classes at the Miami event.
OPA averaged 25 "P" boats per race this season, with a low count of 20 boats in the combined "P" classes at the Point Pleasant event.
Just review and disseminate what is currently working, that's all. The Florida events should be packed with P boats. Just look at the classifieds of where performance offshore boats are for sale and the locations jump out at you.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
It takes both kinds. I had the same thing when I was racing motorcycles. To some, they had to beat the best (me
) to have a good time, to others, they wanted to ride with the best and see how much fun they could have while doing so.My sister is that way in Eventing. I get upset when something goes wrong and she doesn't win. She's like, I'm just here for the fun. I had a blast....
I think all sports have the same thing. Not right or wrong, just sometimes hard to understand the other point of view.
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Paul,,,The way Smitty runs OPA it worx great no doubt about that ,,,,but if u have to make money like SBI as a company u can't do it that way,,,we had this discussion many many times.
Ofcorse if it would be free to race in SBI ,,they would have more boats ,,but it is what it is.
For the $ it takes me to do the OPA races i can race here at SBI so thats a wash.
Most of the P boats are up north,,not here in FL ,,,which is funny that also is one reason why.
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Thats true too,,,,thats why SBI has to change something ,,no doubt,,that is the reason for the new ideas of the 3 P classes only !!!
But KW ,,is also about fun besides racing. To me and many others.:sifone:
AND I STILL WHANT TO WIN AND FINISH ONE DAY !!!!:reddevil:
I WHANT TO
I WHANT TO
I WHANT TO
I AM GOING TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrinjester:
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
Sorry to intrude on your SBI thread, but I will have to risk offending Trent again. I think you are going about "fixing SBI P Class" wrong. You need boat count and Fl has one of the largest potential race fleets in America. You should market to them just like OPA and OSS Am do. Low fees and a class for most boats. Build a fleet and then worry about how you are going to fix them all into classes. I would also match classes and speed to OPA since they have nearly all the currently racing boats. Home Depot and Lowes don't mess with their models they just grow the overall market.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
It is not "free" to race in OPA. Just a lot more reasonable for the "P" class guys because most are not full-time racers. But you still have to participate in a certain number of races to get the other half your prize money.
I'm not here to argue the Orgs or rules. I'm here to try and get everyone to pay attention to everything. And especially what works currently.
And a correction, most of the boats racing "P" classes are up north. Most of the boats capable of racing "P" classes are still down there.
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Dean,,as said before ,,,,,SBI did match the speeds on all classes but did not take a P6 in there.
How many boats showed up ? -1- !!!!!!
HOW MANY BOATS WHERE SCREWED WITH THE SET UP,???? all of the rest.
At the beginning of 2009 i had my boat running perfect @ 81.??? WOT and i even said ok to the 85 MPH. Just so u know.
So tried everything to meet 85,,it cost me money and alot of swet,,,did it work NO !!!!! LOL
But your input is apr. ,, no doubt again SBI needs to change something,,but it needs to work for all in SBI not just the racers.
We will see how things go.
:USA:
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
And that's why we're having this discussion......
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
So if you were screwed by a rule change way would you want to change them again? Make the rules, align them with the largest fleet of raceboats and don't change them. The reasons you had only one boat are simple.
1. Cost
2. Travel for out of state boats
3. Low or no purse
4. no competition to race against
5. Broken promises
Believe me I would love to race in FL during the off season, if it were cost effective (large purse) and had true competition to race.
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
YEAH,,,BUT WITHOUT RACERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sifone:[/QUOTE]
They are racing up north, because it works for them.
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They are racing up north, because it works for them.[/QUOTE]
Who from fl. races up north ????? With the P boats ???
Anyhow,,this is going no where again with this OPA SBI OSS BS !!!!
have a nice day.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
He's not talking about the Florida boats coming up here. He's talking about the boats available up here running races up here because there are classes, rules, and expenses that allow it too happen. And, he is suggesting that the same thing would happen in Florida with the boats available there, if a similar footprint is followed.
I happen to agree.
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
You are correct. The only FL boats racing up north in P Class that I can think of are Steady Pumping and Brett/Billy. There are tons of boat from Georgia down that would make great p class boats. You just need to make it appealing to them.
This is why I used the Lowes HD example. They don't fight each other, they grow the whole market.
Fast Shafts
Competitor
Just a thought, I race with OPA in class 6, #606 Lock'd Up. If SBI had identicle bracket classes, I wouldn't be opposed to racing while I vacation in Florida. I'm sure there are many others from the OPA organization who would do the same. If all organizations would at least cooperate with each other, it COULD be great for everyone's boat count. When the boat count goes up, sponsors are happy! And if one were to "win his class", it would mean more than racing no one and "winning his class".
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