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Powerboat P1 World Championship is FINSHED AND CANCELLED FOR 2010 !!!!!!!!
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MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
I too support Martin and his efforts. I look forward to racing this year with excitement.
Steve Miklos
Charter Member / Competitor
I don't think so. The leaders are seldom the problem. Historically the racer's can ruin things just fine. I think this is why JC has his approach you cant let the racers run the circuit. For the record that is true of all motorsport.
Steve
skaterdave
New member
What you just stated is the obvious problem for offshore, atleast in the "bigger spec classes". And for the record no other motorsport's series, I can think of, has the problems of offshore. That's why in every other type of motorsports, has a primary spec class and has "real sponsors", TV, prize money (enough that actually means something), plus they are basically a markable business.
Outside of OPA's p1-6 the spec classes are a mess.
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I dont agree with this statement. Clearly something needs to be done in our sport of offshore powerboat racing. I just cant believe no one can make this a "Big" marketable sport. I believe, we, the racers have been waiting for a change in this sport. Possibly offshore powerboat reform
Sean Stinson
Founding Member/Contributor
Whoa, whoa, whoa..... I happen to be very dear friends with both Martin and Dave P..... if you don't know Dave P let me enlighten you he is the biggest practical joker in the biz and as well is probably the finest promoter of any event in the business.....Martin is probably one of the finest in the media that I know (next to T2x, of course)..... So from someone that has been there done that I think you really need to slow down a bit trigger!!!!
Sean Stinson
Founding Member/Contributor
I think we all need to step back and see what happens......If it fails you can all say I told you so stupid and I will take it until then why kill the messenger????
If it fails I will be the first to lead the charge of the new light brigade!!!!!!
If it fails I will be the first to lead the charge of the new light brigade!!!!!!
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imco offshore
Competitor / Charter Member
you know,, I was going to write a big long responce, to what is being tried right now !! I won,t,,,,,BUT,,,,PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN,T THROW STONES,!!! I really hope this hits home for some,!!!:cuss:
Steve Miklos
Charter Member / Competitor
CEO is relevant in a real for profit for business that is viable. Mike A. had Speedvision GM etc and the racers killed it to form OSS a not for profit. OSS has never been a shadow of what Mike A. had and several racers put hundreds of thousands of dollars in it. There are not any motorsports with big exposure that are run by the racer's.
Right now George (Imco) is busting his butt to get SVL going, he could keep the money he raised but is sharing it. I did that for SVL with GM in 2000 it was a mistake.
The racer's are hard on the volunteers also.
Steve
phragle
Charter Member
Everyone at OPA and all of the racers have treated me very well over the last few years. Though I could always use more T-Shirts :seeya:
Steve Miklos
Charter Member / Competitor
Yep! That is why they are succeeding. Get a few big ego's and watch what happens.
Steve
T2x
Icon/Charter Member
Amen.......
It's not all that hard to believe.
I have non-boating friends who have never been around it. And they couldn't care less. I put on videos that are compilations of some of the best action the sport has ever seen and they'll watch politely for a few minutes- that's it. I put them on for my kids' friends- they're ambivalent at best. Now, you'd think that males 21 to 25 would be interested. Not this group. And they're not Nintendo nerds. Thery all are into cars and trucks and motorcycles.
Compared to today's broadcast sports offerings, offshore racing is just dull. But if you compared an NFL (or NASCAR) telecast from 30 years ago to today, you wouldn't think you're watching the same game. It's now a total, non-stop multimedia presentation.
At the same time, I couldn't explain to you why ANYONE watches golf or tennis or even bowling on TV.
DaveP
Charter Member
The biggest issue as mentioned in this thread previously is EGO. You take an extremely wealthy offshore racer who is used to getting his way most of the time in the business world and now put him into a racing environment.....POTENTIALLY an issue for some of them (again...NOT ALL....just a few.)
But all it take is a few disgruntled BIG EGO men to say "F--- this! I am going to take some of my friends and build a better mouse trap! (aka another offshore racing series).
Then you also have the BIG EGOs that want to run in a series where there are only themselves or another boat in the class so they can get a checkered flag or a trophy everytime! "aka formerly known at the Superboat Series sponsored by Fountain"
Racing is called racing for a reason. There are supposed to be winners and losers. Unfortunately some BIG EGOs can't handle being in 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th place.
For a race organization to flourish it takes 2 things. ALOT OF MONEY and a group of racers that are commited to the organization no matter what.
But all it take is a few disgruntled BIG EGO men to say "F--- this! I am going to take some of my friends and build a better mouse trap! (aka another offshore racing series).
Then you also have the BIG EGOs that want to run in a series where there are only themselves or another boat in the class so they can get a checkered flag or a trophy everytime! "aka formerly known at the Superboat Series sponsored by Fountain"
Racing is called racing for a reason. There are supposed to be winners and losers. Unfortunately some BIG EGOs can't handle being in 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th place.
For a race organization to flourish it takes 2 things. ALOT OF MONEY and a group of racers that are commited to the organization no matter what.
imco offshore
Competitor / Charter Member
:beatdeadhorse5::beatdeadhorse5:don,t we read this thread ,,about 3 times a year,,,only it has a differant starter tag line,,we all know the story ,,i,v got a lot of money,i,ll give you some ,just make me a CHAMPION,,the funny thing is the general public don,t care,,, and the racing peers know the truth..:seeya: have a great day !!
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