If it stays the way it is you still will have to make 90dB for engines manufactured before 1993 and 88 dB for engines after 1993.
You may peruse the bill itself at :
http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/bills/sb/sb0070f.pdf
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Okay, how do we beat this?
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If it stays the way it is you still will have to make 90dB for engines manufactured before 1993 and 88 dB for engines after 1993.
You may peruse the bill itself at :
http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/bills/sb/sb0070f.pdf
Smarty
New member
Lines 16 through 18 need to changed. The economic hardship argument in line 23 is so broad and ambiguous, that the bill needs further clarification. Start arguing about the vagueness and ambiguity of the legislative intent on how to achieve an 88 db level, economic hardship, get this bill re-worked.
Qualifications of the testing officials, qualified sound-testing equipment that will be acceptable as evidence in court (scientifically reliable testing equipment that is acknowledged in the scientific community as accurate and reliable), are other concerns.
Qualifications of the testing officials, qualified sound-testing equipment that will be acceptable as evidence in court (scientifically reliable testing equipment that is acknowledged in the scientific community as accurate and reliable), are other concerns.
MarylandMark
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03darkshadow
New member
this is b.s., sailboaters being stupid. how come they dont go after the guys (and girls) on loud harleys driving everywhere with open pipes. like through neighborhoods late at night or early in the morning wide open?
Awaken
New member
Unfortunately there is probably one or two boats who do not turn their mufflers on when they pass by the Sail Boat yacht Club that is doing all the complaining. However, there are existing laws on Maryland's books that can prevent this. But as Ted mentioned before, the DNR does not have adequate funding to enforce. So the blow boaters just want to make every boat have a fixed muffler with no option to ensure nobody breaks the law.
Soooo - Whats next? If somebody breaks the law and does more than 6 knots in a designated area, do we make all boats only go 6 knots? Governors on all boats so they can't go faster than a sail boat? You get my point.
I sent a personal email to Senator Simonaire expressing my views. The best way to beat this is for the boating community to contact their local Senator and make their opinion known.
Soooo - Whats next? If somebody breaks the law and does more than 6 knots in a designated area, do we make all boats only go 6 knots? Governors on all boats so they can't go faster than a sail boat? You get my point.
I sent a personal email to Senator Simonaire expressing my views. The best way to beat this is for the boating community to contact their local Senator and make their opinion known.
MarylandMark
Charter Member
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MarylandMark
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masher44
E Dock
It's an economic (and possibly marriage stressing) situation if I have to replace 19K worth of Stellings exhaust on my 22 year old boat!!!!
....and what do I replace it with that will knock the db's down from 110 to 88????
Should I just give in and get 12 electric trolling motors and clamp them to my swim platform?I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!
Ted,
What's the phone # for Pipkins office? You can PM it to me. Thanks
How quiet are the new Merc 1300s? :sifone::sifone::sifone:
Coolerman
Charter Member
At least someone out there gets it, and thankfully you are in a good position to help promote sound conscious boats. Some people don't understand that not everyone appreciates the sound of some nasty big blocks. Just like how we appreciate the noise, there are those who appreciate peace and quietness. And when they outlaw noise, they are going to say you can't have speed either.
I admit, I like the sound of a loud boat, but, keep in mind everyone, we have to be respectfull of everyone else on the water.
Is it 84 or 82? Either way, it's rediculous, and even a walk behind lawnmower won't pass. We run some huge tanks inside the boat that mix the exhuast with water, and then run some big turndowns as well. Still probably noiser than 90db, but imo, it's well within a respectable level.
Here are some pics of our setup.
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Grrrr...
I know that Senator personally and don't agree with most most of his politics but at least called to hear more. Another year not voting for him, wish it would have helped more...
No, they were very interested in what I had to say. She told me he was probably vote against it as was the Senator I spoke with yesterday. But this has to be looked at from an economic perspective since as others have said you can't really argue FOR more noise. The woman I spoke with today said it will probably go to the House and we can take a shot at those hearings. Personally I think with a few minor changes like a smaller fine or warning first and allowing silent choice, the bill would be fine.
He ain't got THAT type of horsepower no mo.....:sifone:
We may have to do that in the next step, since this bill just says do it, but not how. The SAE 2005 spec states 60 dB ambient noise or less (almost impossible) with the gun 1 meter up and 1 meter back from the boat at idle. Now of course silent choice would do that, but a lot of muffler systems will not. Also the DNR has no money for equipment or training so this all may be a moot point anyway. BTW, if you have a link to the NJ law I would love to see it, just to compare.
Thanks Dave
PlumCrazy
New member
In MN, it's 84dB from 4' behind the boat and 82dB for a passby test at 50'. Some bodies of water can set their own limit. I read that Lake Minnetonka will be 80dB this coming summer for a passby test. I don't even know how anyone can pass that, not even the fisherman with a little 90HP OB.
Beak Boater
Charter Member
this update was posted on Speedwake.com just passing it along.
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Here is an email to the list of people behind this bill. You can see they're disappointed that our State Senator EJ Pipkin "pulled the bill" last week and THEY WANT IT RE-INTRODUCED!
The main efforts for this bill are coming from the North East River Yacht Club - it's funny how the want me to bring Rock The Bay and Thunder on the Bay to their Yacht Club and help pay for their new and expensive docks, but don't want Performance Boats on the bay disturbing them. That's not surprising because 90% of the floating condo's there never leave the docks anyway.
I would like all of you to contact State Senator EJ Pipkin and commend him for his efforts to defeat this bill. Please click on the link to send him an email voicing your strong opposition to this bill:
CLICK HERE AND SEND THIS EMAIL!
Click Here to send an email voicing your opposition to this bill!
There are well organized forces working har to get this bill re-introduced!
LET'S DEFEAT THEM!
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From: XXX XXXXX [mailto:xxxxxxx@UDel.Edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:50 PM
To: {names removed to protect their privacy}
Subject: Boat Noise Issue URGENT
Importance: High
Senate Bill 70, the legislation to reduce levels of boat noise in Maryland waters, came to the floor of the Maryland Senate today,
and Senator EJ Pipkin, who represents Cecil County, pulled the bill from a vote.
It will be voted upon tomorrow, Wednesday, February 10th.
Apparently he was more concerned with the number of boaters who would be affected than the number of residents who are adversely affected by excessive noise.
He needs to hear from all of us now.
Please call his Annapolis office this evening or first thing on Wednesday morning at 410-841-3639 and leave a message urging him to vote for Senate Bill 70.
He needs to hear from as many residents as possible before the vote is taken.
Please pass the word along to all your contacts. CALL NOW! Thank you.
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Here is an email to the list of people behind this bill. You can see they're disappointed that our State Senator EJ Pipkin "pulled the bill" last week and THEY WANT IT RE-INTRODUCED!
The main efforts for this bill are coming from the North East River Yacht Club - it's funny how the want me to bring Rock The Bay and Thunder on the Bay to their Yacht Club and help pay for their new and expensive docks, but don't want Performance Boats on the bay disturbing them. That's not surprising because 90% of the floating condo's there never leave the docks anyway.
I would like all of you to contact State Senator EJ Pipkin and commend him for his efforts to defeat this bill. Please click on the link to send him an email voicing your strong opposition to this bill:
CLICK HERE AND SEND THIS EMAIL!
Click Here to send an email voicing your opposition to this bill!
There are well organized forces working har to get this bill re-introduced!
LET'S DEFEAT THEM!
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Quote:
From: XXX XXXXX [mailto:xxxxxxx@UDel.Edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:50 PM
To: {names removed to protect their privacy}
Subject: Boat Noise Issue URGENT
Importance: High
Senate Bill 70, the legislation to reduce levels of boat noise in Maryland waters, came to the floor of the Maryland Senate today,
and Senator EJ Pipkin, who represents Cecil County, pulled the bill from a vote.
It will be voted upon tomorrow, Wednesday, February 10th.
Apparently he was more concerned with the number of boaters who would be affected than the number of residents who are adversely affected by excessive noise.
He needs to hear from all of us now.
Please call his Annapolis office this evening or first thing on Wednesday morning at 410-841-3639 and leave a message urging him to vote for Senate Bill 70.
He needs to hear from as many residents as possible before the vote is taken.
Please pass the word along to all your contacts. CALL NOW! Thank you.
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