Obese People are costing us money

[mosi]

I hope Clay's mom never develops breast cancer........some people might say, let her die because she had boobs!!!

 

[Wrinkleface]

Disclaimer: This photo was staged. Please don't drink and drive.

& smoke, U 4got smoke!!!:sifone:

 

[Trim'd Up]

Obesity is definitely a huge cost, and it ****es me off when I have to pay for ANYONES stupid decisions but my own, but I sure as hell don't want the government telling people what they can and can't eat, or drink, or how much you have to exercise etc. That is where we are going if the Obamacare passes. Give them time. Powerboating will be illeagal because it is to dangerous and is not for the greater good of the society.

 

[catastrophe]

Yes, but part of the savings in Soc medicine come from poor health care and HUGE waits for care in many cases. My Great Aunt was turned away three times for eye surgery in Montreal and when she made it in the fourth time they said "Sorry, too far along, can't operate" Voila, no big expense there. Then she breaks her hip in a fall, rushed to the Emerg Room, Doc looks her over and says "Just bruised, rest up, here's some Tylenol" 36 hours later she's in a coma from blood loss because of the break, damn near lost her then too. I recently ruptured my Distal Bicep tendon, I was X-rayed and MRI'ed the next day, diagnosed and operated on in the space of ten days. This is very important because the tendon will shrink requiring a graft if the surgery is more than 2 weeks out. There is a forum for this injury (whoda thought!) and we have members from Canada and the UK that are waiting as much as 90 days for an Xray or MRI, then another 90 for surgery. And of course if a graft has to be done the cost of the surgery goes almost triple and the repair is approximately 20% more likely to fail or have complications. So there may be savings, but at what cost? If we go to a Soc system of health care like our more enlightened neighbors and allies, where will the rest of the world go for quality health care then?

Don't call it poor health care in general..but I do agree that there are shortcomings.For the most part it works but as in all systems you can find examples of poor performance.
I agree re diagnosis that you mention. You can wait a long time for a MRI or drive to Buffalo and get one same day.
Thats why I love the invisible border between us.
I have to give credit to our govt. for how they handled two cases for me.
In the last 3 years I have lobbied twice for 2 children that couldnt be treated here.
Both were sent to NYC and our govt. spent over 2 million dollars on 2 kids with cancer.
1 didnt make it and the other is my little hero.:USA::USA::USA:

 

[Wrinkleface]

I hope Clay's mom never develops breast cancer........some people might say, let her die because she had boobs!!!

what about the eye implants Clay will need 4 look'n at all the :boobflash::biggrinjester:

 

[Trim'd Up]

The majority of the people that the health care plan would cover either don't want healthcare and could afford it, already qualify for government healthcare, or are illegals. Besides, who in their right mind thinks the government can run ANYTHING efficiently let alone healthcare?

 

[Trim'd Up]

Don't call it poor health care in general..but I do agree that there are shortcomings.For the most part it works but as in all systems you can find examples of poor performance.
I agree re diagnosis that you mention. You can wait a long time for a MRI or drive to Buffalo and get one same day.
Thats why I love the invisible border between us.
I have to give credit to our govt. for how they handled two cases for me.
In the last 3 years I have lobbied twice for 2 children that couldnt be treated here.
Both were sent to NYC and our govt. spent over 2 million dollars on 2 kids with cancer.
1 didnt make it and the other is my little hero.:USA::USA::USA:

Where are those kids going to go after we have communist health care?

 

[catastrophe]

Where are those kids going to go after we have communist health care?

Medical school so they can be rich and take care of me

 

[Offshoredrillin]

I just saw a special on this the other night. Hawaii had a program specificlly for children. at the start of the program all their healthcare was to be provided, for about 1500 kids that were below poverty level. what wound up happening was the parents that did have their kids covered, canceled the coverage so the state would pick up the tab. it exploded to over 5000 kids and the program got cut from the Gov, because of parents greed.

 

[gerritm]

Why are we even having this discussion? National Healthcare is going to be the end of our society as we know it. Listen to all of you carping about how smokers, fat people, alcohol users, drug addicts, anyone who has a risky lifestyle, etc. behave. Wait until the government health risk assessments start. Wait until the assessments make you change your life. Do you really want big brother watching over you? Not me! Wait until you are paying for all of this. Nothing is free. Healthcare should never be from the government. It should be the responsibility of the individual. Your health problems should be confidential not public. The government should be helping those who truly need it, but why change everything to meet the needs of the few. Figure out a way to help those who need it, don't mess with my insurance. I am perfectly happy with what I have and it's costs.

What ever happened to paying for doctor visits? What about catastrophic insurance? Pay for the small visits and have insurance for the emergencies. This was the norm 25 years ago. We went to the doctor, we paid for it. When my wife had back surgery the insurance paid 80% and we paid 20%. It took us 10 years to pay it off, but we did. Can the government get any more intrusive into your life and lifestyle than controlling your healthcare?

 

[cuda]

Obesity is definitely a huge cost, and it ****es me off when I have to pay for ANYONES stupid decisions but my own, but I sure as hell don't want the government telling people what they can and can't eat, or drink, or how much you have to exercise etc. That is where we are going if the Obamacare passes. Give them time. Powerboating will be illeagal because it is to dangerous and is not for the greater good of the society.

I go to the health department here, and 90% of the people are overweight. There are some with thyroid problems or something, but most of these non-English speaking people have eaten their way to bad health. One Latino type will bring the whole family in everytime a kid sneezes, but then someone like me, who has been paying Federal taxes all my life can't get the help I need because of some snotty nose kid. Kids get colds, that's what they do. I also notice every single one of them can afford a cell phone.

 

[cuda]

Don't call it poor health care in general..but I do agree that there are shortcomings.For the most part it works but as in all systems you can find examples of poor performance.
I agree re diagnosis that you mention. You can wait a long time for a MRI or drive to Buffalo and get one same day.
Thats why I love the invisible border between us.
I have to give credit to our govt. for how they handled two cases for me.
In the last 3 years I have lobbied twice for 2 children that couldnt be treated here.
Both were sent to NYC and our govt. spent over 2 million dollars on 2 kids with cancer.
1 didnt make it and the other is my little hero.:USA::USA::USA:

Even poor health care beats no health care everytime.

 

[cuda]

I hope Clay's mom never develops breast cancer........some people might say, let her die because she had boobs!!!

There is no prostethis for an amputated soul, which is what sounds like his affliction.

 

[cuda]

The majority of the people that the health care plan would cover either don't want healthcare and could afford it, already qualify for government healthcare, or are illegals. Besides, who in their right mind thinks the government can run ANYTHING efficiently let alone healthcare?

As far as the government being able to run something efficiently, like I always say, "Past performance predicts future behaivior".

I was on the phone almost an hour yesterday, arguing with a staffer from the state of Florida. I asked him where the hell he went to med school. He didn't, and then I asked him if he ever took logic in college. Logic has absolutely no bearing when it comes to beauracracies.

 

[Ratickle]

As far as the government being able to run something efficiently, like I always say, "Past performance predicts future behaivior".

I was on the phone almost an hour yesterday, arguing with a staffer from the state of Florida. I asked him where the hell he went to med school. He didn't, and then I asked him if he ever took logic in college. Logic has absolutely no bearing when it comes to beauracracies.

Or common sense.......

 

[cuda]

Or common sense.......

Common sense isn't all that common when dealing with the government.

 

[RUNNINTHERIVER]

what about the eye implants Clay will need 4 look'n at all the :boobflash::biggrinjester:

What about the big purple tumor thats growing on his lip from using the same towel as the ditchpigs he pays to be on his boat.

Christmas at his house
Cost is $ 2000.00 for the holidays

 

[Sea-Dated]

No one should get free health care. Enough said.

:iagree:

 

[RUNNINTHERIVER]

" Oh Deseree or whatever your real name is, you didnt have to give me a Christmas present. WOW 3 free lap dances!! Thanks Deseree, or whatever your real name is.
I know this time of year is hard on you. Too bad about your mom, being fat and all.
Call 20 of your friends and we can go out on the boat.

Dreamer
Frickin toolbag

 

[cuda]

:iagree:

It's easy to say that until you need health care through no fault of your own.