Not Evil Just Wrong

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On October 18th there is a movie coming out that shows how the anti-global warming efforts hurt people.

Maybe human are causing the global temperature to rise, maybe not. But the anti-global warming laws are hurting people.

Warm weather is not the enemy of life, ice is. Warm weather allows life, all life, to fluorish. There is much more life in the tropics than in the artics.

Al Gore just needs to shut the hell up! :mad:
 
Good stuff.



Yes, Gore needs to STFU.

'Global warming' is a total farce perpetrated on the unknowing with near-religious, cult-like fervor by a small group who stand to profit very largely from it's taxation. It's nothing more than that.

Global cooling is what we really need to worry about in the next few years.

What Happened to Global Warming???
 
What bothers me about any of the science trends. Whether global warming, food shortages, lack of oil supply, etc.

Not a one of those chickens will talk about the number one reason, too many people, and try to do anything about it.
 
An excerpt from a fantastic article called The Great American Bubble Machine, which was previously discussed (and can be found) here:
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8046

BUBBLE #6
Global Warming

FAST-FORWARD TO TODAY. IT'S early June in Washington, D.C. Barack Ohama, a popular young politician whose leading private campaign donor was an investment bank called Goldman Sachs - its employees paid some $981,000 to his campaign - sits in the White House. Having seamlessly navigated the political minefield of the bailout era, Goldman is once again back to its old business, scouting out loopholes in a new government-created market with the aid of a new set of alumni occupying key government jobs. Gone are Hank Paulson and Neel Kashkari; in their place arc Treasury chief of staffMark Patterson and CFTC chief Gary Gensler, both former Goldmanites. (Gensler was the firm's co-head of finance.) And instead of credit derivatives or oil futures or mortgage-backed CDOs, the new game in town, the next bubble, is in carbon credits - a booming trillion-dollar market that barely even exists yet, but will if the Democratic Party that it gave $4,452,585 to in the last election manages to push into existence a groundbreaking new commodities bubble, disguised as an "environmental plan," called cap-and-trade. The new carbon-credit market is a virtual repeat ofthe commodities-market casino that's been kind to Goldman, except it has one delicious new wrinkle: If the plan goes forward as expected, the rise in prices will be government-mandated. Goldman won't even have to rig the game. It will be rigged in advance.

Here's how it works: If the bill passes, there will be limits for coal plants, utilities, natural-gas distributors and numerous other industries on the amount of carbon emissions (a.k.a. greenhouse gases) they can produce per year. If the companies go over their allotment, they will be able to buy "allocations" or credits from other companies that have managed to produce fewer emissions. President Obama conservatively estimates that about $646 billion worth of carbon credits will be auctioned in the first seven years one of his top economic aides speculates that the real number might be twice even three times that amount. The feature of this plan that has ,special appeal to speculators is that the "cap" on carbon will be continually lowered by the government, which means that carbon credits will become more and more scarce with each passing year. Which means that this is a brand-new commodities market where the main commodity to be traded is guaranteed to rise in price over time. The volume of this new market will be upwards of trillion dollars annually; for comparison's sake, the annual combined revenues of all' electricity suppliers in the U.S. total $320 billion. Goldman wants this bill. The plan is (1) to get in on the ground floor of paradigm-shifting legislation, (2) make sure that they're the profit-making slice of that paradigm and (3) make sure the slice is a big slice. Goldman started pushing hard for cap-and-trade long ago, but things really ramped up last year when the firm spent $3.5 million to lobby climate issues. (One of their lobbyists at the time was none other than Patterson, now Treasury chief of staff.) Back in 2005, when Hank Paulson was chief of Goldman, he personally helped author the bank's environmental policy, a document that contains some surprising elements for a firm that in all other areas has been consistently opposed to any sort of government regulation. Paulson's report argued that "voluntary action alone cannot solve the climate-change problem." A few years later, the bank's carbon chief, Ken Newcombe, insisted that cap-and-trade alone won't be enough to fix the climate problem and called for further public investments in research and development. Which is convenient, considering that Goldman made early investments in wind power (it bought a subsidiary called Horizon Wind Energy), renewable diesel (it is an investor in firm called Changing World Technologies) and solar power (it partnered with BP Solar), exactly the kind of deals that will prosper if the government forces energy producers to use clean-er energy. As Paulson said at the time, "We're not making those investments to lose money."The bank owns a 10 percent stake in the Chicago Climate Exchange, where the carbon credits will be traded. Moreover, Goldman owns a minority stake in Blue Source LLC, a Utah-based firm that sells carbon credits of the type that will be in great demand if the bill passes. Nobel Prize winner Al Gore, who is intimately involved with the planning of cap-and-trade, started up a company called Generation Investment Management with three former bigwigs from Goldman Sachs Asset Management, David Blood, Mark Ferguson and Peter Hanis. Their business? Investing in carbon offsets, There's also a $500 million Green Growth Fund set up by a Goldmanite to invest in green-tech ... the list goes on and on. Goldman is ahead of the headlines again, just waiting for someone to make it rain in the right spot. Will this market be bigger than the energy-futures market? "Oh, it'll dwarf it," says a former staffer on the House energy committee. Well, you might say, who cares? If cap-and-trade succeeds, won't we all be saved from the catastrophe of global warming? Maybe - but cap-and-trade, as envisioned by Goldman, is really just a carbon tax structured so that private interests collect the revenues. Instead of simply imposing a fixed government levy on carbon pollution and forcing unclean energy producers to pay for the mess they make, cap-and-trade will allow a small tribe of greedy-as-hell Wall Street swine to turn yet another commodities market into a private tax-collection scheme. This is worse than the bailout: It allows the bank to seize taxpayer money before it's even collected. "If it's going to be a lax, I would prefer that Washington set the tax and collect it," says· Michael Masters, the hedge-fund director who' spoke out against oil-futures speculation. "But we're saying that Wall Street can set the tax, and Wan Street can collect the tax. That's the last thing in the world I want, It's just asinine." Cap-and-trade is going to happen. Or, if it doesn't, something like it will. The moral is the same as for all the other bubbles that Goldman helped create, from 1929 to 2009. In almost every case, the very same bank that behaved recklessly for years, weighing down the system with toxic loans and predatory debt, and accomplishing nothing hut massive bonuses for a few bosses, has been rewarded with mountains of virtually free money and government guarantees - while the actual victims in this mess, ordinary taxpayers, are the ones paying tor it, It's Dot always easy to accept the reality of what we now routinely allow these people to get away with; there's a kind of collective denial that kicks in when a country goes through what America has gone though lately, when a people lose as much prestige and status as we have in the past few years. You can't really register the fact that you're no longer a citizen of a thriving first-world democracy, that you're no longer above getting robbed in broad daylight, because like an amputee, you can still sort of feel things that are no longer there. But this is it. This is the world we live in now. And in this world, some o[us have to play by the rules, while others get a note from the principal excusing them from homework till the end of time, plus 10 billion free dollars in a paper bag to buy lunch. It's a gangster state, running on gangster economics, and even prices can't be trusted anymore; there are hidden taxes in every buck you pay. And maybe we can't stop it, but we should at least know where it's all going.
 
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I was talking to a girl in Minnesota that said "the white chit" is already falling. I talked to her after that, and she said it was melting. She's from Austrailia, where it was 112 the day she was born. :eek:
 
Damn Nick, I may edit that when I get a chance.....

Scams by politicians are everywhere. What surprises me the most, the guys cheat and steal, get caught, and it's as if they have diplomatic immunity in our own country......
 
I was talking to a girl in Minnesota that said "the white chit" is already falling. I talked to her after that, and she said it was melting. She's from Austrailia, where it was 112 the day she was born. :eek:

Austrailia is having a tough draught season. Feelin sorry for those people....:(
 
Damn Nick, I may edit that when I get a chance.....

Scams by politicians are everywhere. What surprises me the most, the guys cheat and steal, get caught, and it's as if they have diplomatic immunity in our own country......

It's rough I know, but that what you get when you scan a document and make a pdf out of it and then copy & paste...Acrobat does it's best to translate an image of text into actual text, but it's not perfect.

Click the link for the full article.

:)
 
Not a one of those chickens will talk about the number one reason, too many people, and try to do anything about it.

I agree, but how do we implement population control when 99.9% of "the population" are indoctrinated with procreation as their primary goal in life?

Somebody needs to pick a fight between India and China...2 largest populations that need some controlling. But Ghandi went and phucked up the Hindus so they won't fight back....:boxing_smiley:
 
www.noteviljustwrong.com

On October 18th there is a movie coming out that shows how the anti-global warming efforts hurt people.

Maybe human are causing the global temperature to rise, maybe not. But the anti-global warming laws are hurting people.

Warm weather is not the enemy of life, ice is. Warm weather allows life, all life, to fluorish. There is much more life in the tropics than in the artics.

Al Gore just needs to shut the hell up! :mad:

Besides, it is kind of hard to get a chick naked on your Cig in the Artic.:biggrinjester::drool5:
 
They are having a tough drought season.

Their draughts are still flowing by the Pint, mate. :D

It was Litres when I was down there:sifone:

EDIT, that was back in the eighties, things have gotten way more confusing since then

Names of beer glasses in various Australian cities
Capacity Sydney/Canberra Darwin Brisbane Townsville6 Adelaide Hobart Melbourne Perth
115 ml
(4 fl oz) – – – – – small beer – shetland
140 ml
(5 fl oz) pony – small beer five pony – horse/pony pony
170 ml
(6 fl oz) – – – – – six (ounce) small glass bobbie/six
200 ml
(7 fl oz) seven seven beer7 seven butcher seven (ounce) glass glass
225 ml
(8 fl oz) – – – – – eight (ounce) – –
255 ml
(9 fl oz) – – – – schooner – – –
285 ml
(10 fl oz) middy/half pint8 handle pot ten schooner ten (ounce)/pot pot middy/half pint
350 ml
(12 fl oz) schmiddy – – – – – – –
425 ml
(15 fl oz) schooner schooner schooner schooner pint fifteen/schooner schooner schooner4
570 ml
(20 fl oz) pint pint pint pint imperial pint pint pint pint
1140 ml
(40 fl oz) jug jug jug jug jug jug jug jug
 
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They ran commercial shipping through the Northeast passage (around Siberia and Russia) for the first time this year. That is probably significant
 
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