LotoSteve
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or it could be that only 50% of the working age people in this country pay all the taxes and that 98% of THEM are white and sick of it.
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or it could be that only 50% of the working age people in this country pay all the taxes and that 98% of THEM are white and sick of it.
Tommy Gun
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or it could be that only 50% of the working age people in this country pay all the taxes and that 98% of THEM are white and sick of it.
Damn straight comment that is. The one thing Obama has got right was when he said that white people are angry too.
BGIII
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I'll bet a hell of a lot more vacation days were used today versus the inauguration.
Tommy Gun
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Yep...all you Obama worshipers should read this...
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5854
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5854
Playn
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I don't know where you were the last 8 years but there were a ton of conservatives that were very vocal over the liberal type spending that happened under president Bush's watch. Of course they don't tell you that when you get your marching orders for the day from the Daily Kos or moveon.org
cuda
Banned
You never miss a chance to use your seventh grade "cool" names, do you?
You're about as funny as a fart in church.
catmando
Infamous
I just think of "Algore" "Al Bore", "Slick Willie", "Billary", John F'n Kerry, "Lurch", "Barney F*g" etc etc and I laugh at you.
Tommy Gun
Charter Member
Wheres the beef?...just what I thought Cat, you come up empty.
Trim'd Up
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It's about time that the conservatives become a little more vocal, although it is a little tougher to be an activist when you have a job.
I think it's time to turn the tables. Lets all give up on that "working thing" and start protesting everything.
Who's gonna keep the lights on then?
I think it's time to turn the tables. Lets all give up on that "working thing" and start protesting everything.
Who's gonna keep the lights on then?
LaughingCat
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Jeese people. Only commenting on the irony. "Adopt my work ethic" but taking time from work to hold the sign. It's just as funny as a gor white chick wearing a thong selling watermelon and turkey legs at the inauguration.
BTW, the 700 billion dollar TARP program was basically extorted from us by George W. Bush (D-Texas) on prime time tv and given to banks with basically no strings. Dems are no better but I expect it from them.
BTW, the 700 billion dollar TARP program was basically extorted from us by George W. Bush (D-Texas) on prime time tv and given to banks with basically no strings. Dems are no better but I expect it from them.
Tommy Gun
Charter Member
Yep the IRONY really stings...the working people who actually pay taxes typically can't afford the time off...the "silent majority"...guess that explains plenty; but silent no longer;
"We're ****ed and were not going to take it anymore."
LaughingCat
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OK, friendly comment her. Tea Parties are to protest excessive taxes. Taxes have not been raised except for cigarettes. Spending has gone up but economists say that is how to avoid a Depression. So we have people out there rallying against how high tier taxes are. I'm having trouble connecting the pieces. Are they protesting the future increases in taxes, which is inevitable considering how much money we've spent not just in Obama first 100 days, but over the last 8 years on wars, tax cuts and entitlement expansions like the medicare prescription drug program?
I watched the hrecaps from yesteray. While the core of the purpose was easily supporter by those with educations, the soundbites played on all networks were form people who basically want to pay no taxes and have no government. I'm not going to argue the virtues of their dream, but that's the platform people like Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber stood for. And there is no way possible that a movement based on that can attract enough people to democratically elect a leader. What I am saying is, if you defend Democracy and want the Republican party to win elections again, strapping yourselves to the militant Right is not going to win elections. But it will win ratings.
Which would you rather have?
So you know, I do stand for smaller government, reduced, but reasonable taxes (I want someone to answer 911 when I call) and capitalism. But it's tough to make arguments right now when the Capitalist business leaders have been lining up asking for corporate socialism hand-outs.
When the economic system is working, we can all argue our ideological differences. When the system is broken, like it is right now, we have to go to economics and historical lessons to fix the problem.
Analogy: When the race engine is operable, stepping on the gas will make it go faster. When the engine is broken, you have to fix the problem. Standing on the gas will do nothing. Right now, people think they can just mash their ideological pedals harder and get the result they want. But maybe people need to realize we need to let the mechanics get under the hood fast. The race is under green flag and we're arguing what color jumpsuit the mechanic is wearing.
Basically, we are stuck with Bozo and the monsters, but they must succeed for all of us to. If we hope they fail, we all fail.
I will not change my signature line to the famous quote from Backdraft:
You go, we go.
That basically sums it up for me.
I watched the hrecaps from yesteray. While the core of the purpose was easily supporter by those with educations, the soundbites played on all networks were form people who basically want to pay no taxes and have no government. I'm not going to argue the virtues of their dream, but that's the platform people like Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber stood for. And there is no way possible that a movement based on that can attract enough people to democratically elect a leader. What I am saying is, if you defend Democracy and want the Republican party to win elections again, strapping yourselves to the militant Right is not going to win elections. But it will win ratings.
Which would you rather have?
So you know, I do stand for smaller government, reduced, but reasonable taxes (I want someone to answer 911 when I call) and capitalism. But it's tough to make arguments right now when the Capitalist business leaders have been lining up asking for corporate socialism hand-outs.
When the economic system is working, we can all argue our ideological differences. When the system is broken, like it is right now, we have to go to economics and historical lessons to fix the problem.
Analogy: When the race engine is operable, stepping on the gas will make it go faster. When the engine is broken, you have to fix the problem. Standing on the gas will do nothing. Right now, people think they can just mash their ideological pedals harder and get the result they want. But maybe people need to realize we need to let the mechanics get under the hood fast. The race is under green flag and we're arguing what color jumpsuit the mechanic is wearing.
Basically, we are stuck with Bozo and the monsters, but they must succeed for all of us to. If we hope they fail, we all fail.
I will not change my signature line to the famous quote from Backdraft:
You go, we go.
That basically sums it up for me.
Offshoredrillin
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Good post, I understand. However the text below I feel belies what most Americans are thinking with the actions of yesterday.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
this was originally signed by 55 men that were "elected" to look out for the best interest of America. The point being is, are the "elected" people of today doing their best for the country.
Charles Krauthammer said yesterday of the protests,"keep in mind, the people are protesting taxation withrepresentation. That this should be a wake up call for the incumbents in congress. I personally feel that this was aimed more towards congress and not the current administration. Basically as Nicolas Cage said, it means the people with the ability to affect change have the responsibility to do it.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
this was originally signed by 55 men that were "elected" to look out for the best interest of America. The point being is, are the "elected" people of today doing their best for the country.
Charles Krauthammer said yesterday of the protests,"keep in mind, the people are protesting taxation withrepresentation. That this should be a wake up call for the incumbents in congress. I personally feel that this was aimed more towards congress and not the current administration. Basically as Nicolas Cage said, it means the people with the ability to affect change have the responsibility to do it.
LaughingCat
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Interesting. We have a good dialogue going. Getting a much better understanding. Too bad the media focuses on the people who aren't prepared to convey the message properly. That, in itself, could diminish the positive effect of yesterday's activities.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Diminish yes, extinguish no. And you must remember, reporting sets the rules of who they interview. If you have an agenda, just as in statistical polls, your "pigeons" can effect the outcome almost any way you want it too. And most media has an agenda.
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