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Ratickle
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It looked as if he was on a 20 or 30 degree angle to the wake. Lifted the port sponson, tripped the stern, all over after that because of the speed.
I just don't get it. I drive fast, no doubt about it. But the difference between driving fast and driving stupid is one little bitty key issue. Are you endangering only youself and others who have made the same choice of serious risk to themselves? Or are you endangering others who have not made that same choice to put their lives in harms way. Simple small thing to consider when you are pushing it.
As for the wake, what a bunch of crap. Who decides if the wake is too large? The guy going 100, 150, 200? The guy driving the cruiser? The captain driving the tugboat? The captain driving the ship? Or does it depend on what other boats happen to be on the water that day? And let's suppose they had flipped completely over and were killed? Then the kids and family in the boat causing the wake get to live with that the rest of their lives? Questioning themselves etc?
Either one of those accidents could have been much worse. Poker runs and open water with no speed limits will be a thing of the past if this kind of stuff keeps on happening. People who have performance boats should pay close attention to Michigan boating law. For safety here, all inland lakes have a maximum speed limit of 55mph. No exceptions except for the Great Lakes where it only applies within 1 mile of shore. After you are offshore by more than a mile, no speed limit.
I am still a proponent of boating driving licenses and his should have been pulled after the first accident. Otherwise we will all lose our boating privaleges for speed and the waterways will be controlled just like the freeways and highways are.
Michigan Law
Unlawful and Dangerous Operation
In addition to the laws mentioned previously, here are some other Michigan regulations that apply when vessel operators are on the water.
Michigan law designates these dangerous operating practices as illegal.
Reckless Operation of a vessel or reckless manipulation of water skis, a surfboard, or similar device is defined as operation which disregards the safety or rights of others or endangers the person or property of others. Some examples are:
•Weaving your vessel through congested waterway traffic or swerving at the last possible moment in order to avoid collision
•Jumping the wake of another vessel unnecessarily close to the other vessel or when visibility around the other vessel is restricted
•Chasing, harassing, or disturbing wildlife with your vessel
•Causing damage from the wake of your vessel
Failure To Regulate Speed is operating a vessel at speeds that may cause danger to life or property of any other person or at speeds that will not permit you to bring your vessel to a safe stop. It is illegal to operate a vessel:
•In excess of 55 mph unless you are at least one mile offshore on the Great Lakes or Lake St. Clair
•At greater than “slow, no wake speed” when a person is in the bow of a vessel without proper seating
•Faster than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions (weather, vessel traffic, etc.)
So, in Michigan, would the result be one baot caused damage by thier wake and the other boat had a failure to regulate speed? Possibly, I'll talk to some water patrol officers I know and have them review the two tapes.
I just don't get it. I drive fast, no doubt about it. But the difference between driving fast and driving stupid is one little bitty key issue. Are you endangering only youself and others who have made the same choice of serious risk to themselves? Or are you endangering others who have not made that same choice to put their lives in harms way. Simple small thing to consider when you are pushing it.
As for the wake, what a bunch of crap. Who decides if the wake is too large? The guy going 100, 150, 200? The guy driving the cruiser? The captain driving the tugboat? The captain driving the ship? Or does it depend on what other boats happen to be on the water that day? And let's suppose they had flipped completely over and were killed? Then the kids and family in the boat causing the wake get to live with that the rest of their lives? Questioning themselves etc?
Either one of those accidents could have been much worse. Poker runs and open water with no speed limits will be a thing of the past if this kind of stuff keeps on happening. People who have performance boats should pay close attention to Michigan boating law. For safety here, all inland lakes have a maximum speed limit of 55mph. No exceptions except for the Great Lakes where it only applies within 1 mile of shore. After you are offshore by more than a mile, no speed limit.
I am still a proponent of boating driving licenses and his should have been pulled after the first accident. Otherwise we will all lose our boating privaleges for speed and the waterways will be controlled just like the freeways and highways are.
Michigan Law
Unlawful and Dangerous Operation
In addition to the laws mentioned previously, here are some other Michigan regulations that apply when vessel operators are on the water.
Michigan law designates these dangerous operating practices as illegal.
Reckless Operation of a vessel or reckless manipulation of water skis, a surfboard, or similar device is defined as operation which disregards the safety or rights of others or endangers the person or property of others. Some examples are:
•Weaving your vessel through congested waterway traffic or swerving at the last possible moment in order to avoid collision
•Jumping the wake of another vessel unnecessarily close to the other vessel or when visibility around the other vessel is restricted
•Chasing, harassing, or disturbing wildlife with your vessel
•Causing damage from the wake of your vessel
Failure To Regulate Speed is operating a vessel at speeds that may cause danger to life or property of any other person or at speeds that will not permit you to bring your vessel to a safe stop. It is illegal to operate a vessel:
•In excess of 55 mph unless you are at least one mile offshore on the Great Lakes or Lake St. Clair
•At greater than “slow, no wake speed” when a person is in the bow of a vessel without proper seating
•Faster than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions (weather, vessel traffic, etc.)
So, in Michigan, would the result be one baot caused damage by thier wake and the other boat had a failure to regulate speed? Possibly, I'll talk to some water patrol officers I know and have them review the two tapes.
rschap1
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I dunno , but I really wonder how the law would look at this...
I know the wake jumping clause got enacted about the same time I was in the midst of riding my stand up jet ski days.
I still ride, but they were way more popular then...
Law was created because everyone wanted to get air off boats' wake then. Some riders got too close and often too close to skiers and tubers.
I really do wonder if an officer (in Michigan) would have witnessed this, how it would have been interpreted. If had to make a guess...
my money would have to get placed on the fast boat's negligence and operating too fast to be safe, but like I said...I am just curious.
I know the wake jumping clause got enacted about the same time I was in the midst of riding my stand up jet ski days.
I still ride, but they were way more popular then...
Law was created because everyone wanted to get air off boats' wake then. Some riders got too close and often too close to skiers and tubers.
I really do wonder if an officer (in Michigan) would have witnessed this, how it would have been interpreted. If had to make a guess...
my money would have to get placed on the fast boat's negligence and operating too fast to be safe, but like I said...I am just curious.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Sounds like he'll be back on the water next spring.
By J.B. Simpson/LakeExpo.com LakeExpo.com
LAKE OF THE OZARKS, Mo. – The 2012 Shootout race for Top Gun is now wide open. Last year’s Top Gun and odds-on favorite to break the Shootout record this year crashed on the St. Lawrence River during the 1,000 Islands Poker Run.
Bill Tomlinson and Ken Kehoe were running My Way at 160mph on Saturday when the 50-foot Mystic hit a wake destabilizing the catamaran and sending the bow straight up into the air. Exceptional driving, phenomenal throttle work and a little luck allowed Tomlinson and Kehoe to escape the incident unharmed (See the video).
“At the last minute, a 44-foot Sea Ray lifted its bow and caught us,” Tomlinson said. “We should have been more observant and careful. We caught (the wake) at a bad angle, misjudged it… we were on it before we saw the height.”
The impact blasted a six-foot hole in the port side, next to a turbine. “It crushed the exhaust on one side and one turbine is going back for inspection,” Tomlinson said. The other turbine powered My Way to shore. “Ken knows the shoreline real well and we got it beached,” Tomlinson said. “The boat stayed together and we didn’t get any water in the cockpit.” They were able to shut down the electronics before water became a problem. There was no wire damage. “Ken ran up and had a barge and crane out to us within an hour,” Tomlinson said.
In total, My Way probably suffered $250,000 in damage. “We should be able to repair it,” Tomlinson said.
But it will not happen in time for the Lake of the Ozarks Shootout next weekend.
“Maybe, if we really pushed it, we could get it repaired in three weeks, but we’ll miss the Shootout either way, so I’m in no big hurry,” he said. My Way should be back in action by spring.
Tomlinson has every intention of bringing the Mystic back in 2013 and his mission is the same – to break the Shootout record.
My Way was primed to do it this year if not for the twist of fate.
The 50-foot Mystic, powered by 6,000 horses of twin-turbine power, is among the fastest in the world, capable of reaching 221+ MPH in one mile.
My Way put up five impressive runs at the 2011 Shootout, three officially recorded at 208 mph, tying Dave Scott’s course record from Captain Ron’s and still one mile an hour shy of the all-time record of 209 set by Dave Callan at the old Shooter’s 21 racecourse.
Tomlinson and Kehoe are already forever etched in the Shootout history books, but they wanted the record -- bad.
“We had a plane coming down with 12 people for the weekend. I spoke with Ron (Duggan) and we had it all set,” Tomlinson said. “We really enjoyed last year and look forward to doing it again. We hope everyone has a great time.”
The Lake of the Ozarks Shootout is the only race My Way runs all year.
This year's Shootout races will be held Aug. 25-26 at Captain Ron's at the 34.5MM of Lake of the Ozarks.
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By J.B. Simpson/LakeExpo.com LakeExpo.com
LAKE OF THE OZARKS, Mo. – The 2012 Shootout race for Top Gun is now wide open. Last year’s Top Gun and odds-on favorite to break the Shootout record this year crashed on the St. Lawrence River during the 1,000 Islands Poker Run.
Bill Tomlinson and Ken Kehoe were running My Way at 160mph on Saturday when the 50-foot Mystic hit a wake destabilizing the catamaran and sending the bow straight up into the air. Exceptional driving, phenomenal throttle work and a little luck allowed Tomlinson and Kehoe to escape the incident unharmed (See the video).
“At the last minute, a 44-foot Sea Ray lifted its bow and caught us,” Tomlinson said. “We should have been more observant and careful. We caught (the wake) at a bad angle, misjudged it… we were on it before we saw the height.”
The impact blasted a six-foot hole in the port side, next to a turbine. “It crushed the exhaust on one side and one turbine is going back for inspection,” Tomlinson said. The other turbine powered My Way to shore. “Ken knows the shoreline real well and we got it beached,” Tomlinson said. “The boat stayed together and we didn’t get any water in the cockpit.” They were able to shut down the electronics before water became a problem. There was no wire damage. “Ken ran up and had a barge and crane out to us within an hour,” Tomlinson said.
In total, My Way probably suffered $250,000 in damage. “We should be able to repair it,” Tomlinson said.
But it will not happen in time for the Lake of the Ozarks Shootout next weekend.
“Maybe, if we really pushed it, we could get it repaired in three weeks, but we’ll miss the Shootout either way, so I’m in no big hurry,” he said. My Way should be back in action by spring.
Tomlinson has every intention of bringing the Mystic back in 2013 and his mission is the same – to break the Shootout record.
My Way was primed to do it this year if not for the twist of fate.
The 50-foot Mystic, powered by 6,000 horses of twin-turbine power, is among the fastest in the world, capable of reaching 221+ MPH in one mile.
My Way put up five impressive runs at the 2011 Shootout, three officially recorded at 208 mph, tying Dave Scott’s course record from Captain Ron’s and still one mile an hour shy of the all-time record of 209 set by Dave Callan at the old Shooter’s 21 racecourse.
Tomlinson and Kehoe are already forever etched in the Shootout history books, but they wanted the record -- bad.
“We had a plane coming down with 12 people for the weekend. I spoke with Ron (Duggan) and we had it all set,” Tomlinson said. “We really enjoyed last year and look forward to doing it again. We hope everyone has a great time.”
The Lake of the Ozarks Shootout is the only race My Way runs all year.
This year's Shootout races will be held Aug. 25-26 at Captain Ron's at the 34.5MM of Lake of the Ozarks.
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My Way crash forces Shootout scratch - lakeexpo.com: Shootout: my way race boat, my way raceboat, my way shootout, bill tomlinson my way, bill tomlinson shootout
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
One of my favorite comments about the boat damage in the picture...
"As shown in the included photos, the boat suffered some cosmetic damage......."
At this moment, I'm wondering if it can even be repaired to sustain the structural integrity required for 200+ mph speeds? It would for sure have to go back into the mold and completely be replaced in that area and a significant portion of the hull around the hole.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
They couldn't find enough in the correct color of red for My Way......
One thing I'll say about Bill and this incident, at least he's not one of the nincompoops blaming the other boat for making a wake. Maybe that has a bit to do with his wife's 82' Sunseeker boat that goes over 50mph (Her Way). It's got to throw one heck of a wake.
One thing I'll say about Bill and this incident, at least he's not one of the nincompoops blaming the other boat for making a wake. Maybe that has a bit to do with his wife's 82' Sunseeker boat that goes over 50mph (Her Way). It's got to throw one heck of a wake.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Newspaper story from the accident.
My Way, one of the most popular powerboats in the 1000 Islands Poker Run, sustained severe damage when it failed to negotiate a wave on the return trip from Prescott Saturday afternoon.
Event co-ordinator Pierre Savoie confirmed no one was injured in the incident, which happened east of the Three Sisters Islands as the vessel was returning from a card stop in Prescott.
My Way, the ultra-slick cigarette boat owned by Rockport summer resident Bill Tomlinson, is a perennial favourite of Brockville poker run fans and its absence on the return trip was the topic of much discussion among the crowd lining Blockhouse Island and the southern tip of Hardy Park.
Savoie said a laker travelling along the St. Lawrence River created a deep wave, which My Way apparently came into at the wrong angle. The vessel came up with the wave with its nose up, which caused it to lose balance and flip to one side, then the other, when the wave dropped.
“The important thing is that the people were not injured,” Savoie said in French. He had not spoken to Tomlinson.
Savoie was relieved the boat did not flip over entirely. Still, the shock caused by the wave was enough to cause serious damage.
“It's like butting your right elbow and then your left elbow,” said Savoie.
Brockville stop chairman Chris Paul said My Way had a crew of two.
When a boat hits a wave at the kind of speed My Way reaches, the damage is extensive, as was apparent to anyone who saw it removed from the water in Brockville, added Paul.
“The majority of the port side of the boat's been torn right off,” he said.
Event marshals were on the water to assist with the damaged vessel, while fellow poker run participants also stopped to offer assistance, including the other souped-up boat in the event, Aqua-Mania, said Savoie.
“The participants, once they see someone stopped with the motor cover open, they will take the time to stop and see if they need help,” said Savoie.
My Way also has a land team, whom the crew immediately radioed, he added.
Meanwhile, the event includes a boat with paramedics, who were able to confirm there were no injuries.
Savoie and Paul were not sure how the vessel was towed to shore.
City police Sgt. Surinder Gill confirmed Brockville officers helped get the vessel out of the water at the Home Street boat ramp early Saturday evening.
These kinds of incidents are among the hazards of the sport, said Savoie, adding vessels sustain damage to their engines or propellers all the time.
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My Way damaged in Poker Run | Local | News | Brockville Recorder
A very short video.
My Way, one of the most popular powerboats in the 1000 Islands Poker Run, sustained severe damage when it failed to negotiate a wave on the return trip from Prescott Saturday afternoon.
Event co-ordinator Pierre Savoie confirmed no one was injured in the incident, which happened east of the Three Sisters Islands as the vessel was returning from a card stop in Prescott.
My Way, the ultra-slick cigarette boat owned by Rockport summer resident Bill Tomlinson, is a perennial favourite of Brockville poker run fans and its absence on the return trip was the topic of much discussion among the crowd lining Blockhouse Island and the southern tip of Hardy Park.
Savoie said a laker travelling along the St. Lawrence River created a deep wave, which My Way apparently came into at the wrong angle. The vessel came up with the wave with its nose up, which caused it to lose balance and flip to one side, then the other, when the wave dropped.
“The important thing is that the people were not injured,” Savoie said in French. He had not spoken to Tomlinson.
Savoie was relieved the boat did not flip over entirely. Still, the shock caused by the wave was enough to cause serious damage.
“It's like butting your right elbow and then your left elbow,” said Savoie.
Brockville stop chairman Chris Paul said My Way had a crew of two.
When a boat hits a wave at the kind of speed My Way reaches, the damage is extensive, as was apparent to anyone who saw it removed from the water in Brockville, added Paul.
“The majority of the port side of the boat's been torn right off,” he said.
Event marshals were on the water to assist with the damaged vessel, while fellow poker run participants also stopped to offer assistance, including the other souped-up boat in the event, Aqua-Mania, said Savoie.
“The participants, once they see someone stopped with the motor cover open, they will take the time to stop and see if they need help,” said Savoie.
My Way also has a land team, whom the crew immediately radioed, he added.
Meanwhile, the event includes a boat with paramedics, who were able to confirm there were no injuries.
Savoie and Paul were not sure how the vessel was towed to shore.
City police Sgt. Surinder Gill confirmed Brockville officers helped get the vessel out of the water at the Home Street boat ramp early Saturday evening.
These kinds of incidents are among the hazards of the sport, said Savoie, adding vessels sustain damage to their engines or propellers all the time.
Full story
My Way damaged in Poker Run | Local | News | Brockville Recorder
A very short video.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
But it's an ultra-slick cigarette boat.....
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