Let's try a different approach

two points
1. these long run events are really cool and should somehow be incorporated into todays racing. but i think there need to be some kinda of safety and towing program in affect. as a racer/boat owner you have to think of the bigger picture also and rationalize whats being put at stake $$$$-wise.

2. the "worlds" is probably one of the key factors in the down fall of overall boat racing. there should be a "world champ" but he should be the guy that has won the most races or done the best ALL YEAR! the current setup with KW as the worlds lets teams show up for just that one race and have a shot at the title. how does this promote a quality product of racing all year when guys can just show up and cherry pick the last race.


That would fall under the National Champion Title!!!!! But to qualify for the Worlds you have to run atleast 2 or 3 races throughout the year and yes that does give you the righjt to pick and choose....When I come back, if I comeback, that is the only title I am gunning for other than that I amgoing to go after the endurance records because that is trult an offshore event!!!!
 
I think that alot of changes will begin happening throughout the year and into next year....So I think that maybe we should ride the storm out for a year and at that popint see where it stands.....If you don't like it at that time then it probably needs to die and be rebuilt from the ground up with a new theme, look and vision!!!!! Regardless of what anyone thinks IMHO I think it needs to be a for profit org under one banner with a divisional club format under 1 banner that is a dictatorship....I believe it also should be run under the KISS format...Keep It Simple Stupid!!!!!!!!
 
Now that we know what doesn't work. Let's open up a discussion as to what the sport needs. Let's leave out current projects, loyalties and agenda's and allow them to rise or fall based on their own merits and/or lack thereof.

Let's take a clean sheet of paper, and project what, in a perfect world, the sport should look like. This will do one of two things; produce a vision that a bunch of people can get behind, or show that the diversity of concepts in the minds of those with interest in the sport is too varied for anything but the small time, localised, weekend warrior events we currently see.

I will not participate beyond simply opening the topic. This is about your ideas...not mine. Instead I will simply answer questions on the "T2x set me straight" thread if someone needs historical reference material.

Have at it and good luck.

T2x

i think ? if i may? 4 sunday classes 2 cats 2 v,s top dog cat 2 engines unlimited power min lth 38 ft. 2nd cat class 34 / 38 ft power to weight max weight 9500 lbs this will limit the, power v bottoms super v min lnth.38 ft 2 engines limited v,s max lnth 38 ft power to weight max weight 9000 lbs will again limit power. every thing else runs saturdays > no purse no prizes nothing it would be a proving grounds to show case tallent. just like every other real sport ,,,, stock cars,,,,scca,,,, motor cycles you can,t pay every class that stumbles to the starting line,, as you have seen people with money can invent a class , and that is what deluted boat racing. BOTTOM LINE THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE SPORT AND A LOT OF US SHOULDN,T BE HERE ANYWAY. not many of us think of going to nascar ,,,? well this on water, it,s just my opinion if you want to edit it go ahead ,,,,:USA:
 
i just think hes st,,,,,,,d 110 thinks hes a jack,,,,,s sorry it,s just a shame to waste good air

I think ,that is what all this is anyways,,," waisting air " nothing is going to change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also i don't need friends and i like when u give me a bunch of s...,,,i am big enough to handle it .

On the finishing races,,,hey engine problems happen ,,not my thing,,don't know nothing about them.
A matter of fact i may not no anything about anything,,,,but i do know that a bunsh of people hate Smitty and now they kiss his A.. to have a place to race,,,and i do think that is pretty funny right there.

Hey Dave,,,for u my friend,,my boat is always for sale if i get what i want for it .,,,so is everybody elses i would think.

For all of u keep dreaming and i just live and enjoy my life,,as always.:USA:

LATER

PS.: i love it when i get u guys going like that .:seeya:
 
I think ,that is what all this is anyways,,," waisting air " nothing is going to change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also i don't need friends and i like when u give me a bunch of s...,,,i am big enough to handle it .

On the finishing races,,,hey engine problems happen ,,not my thing,,don't know nothing about them.
A matter of fact i may not no anything about anything,,,,but i do know that a bunsh of people hate Smitty and now they kiss his A.. to have a place to race,,,and i do think that is pretty funny right there.

Hey Dave,,,for u my friend,,my boat is always for sale if i get what i want for it .,,,so is everybody elses i would think.

For all of u keep dreaming and i just live and enjoy my life,,as always.:USA:

LATER

PS.: i love it when i get u guys going like that .:seeya:

TOUSHEA,,,,:cuss:
 
maybe I am an ignorant muppet... but I have talked to a lot of people here and there, and noone has ever said a bad thing about Smitty, much less hate him.....
 
scott now that i think about it YOU are probably one of the most reconized people in offshore right now ? COOL sit back and drink a beer , :driving:
 
maybe I am an ignorant muppet... but I have talked to a lot of people here and there, and noone has ever said a bad thing about Smitty, much less hate him.....

Where u in destin in 2006 ??? After that one OSS / OPA .....i think **** hit the fan .

But hey maybe i missunderstand everybody and when i was sitting in a plain one day with a person from OSS maybe i miss understood him ,,,grow up guys .

And hey ,,,i had my problems with smitty and i think they are resolved.

Other then that most of the people are not like me,,,they dont say anything only in a dark room where they can't be identified. toooooo funny.

Most of u guys actually think i am a d... because i speak what i think and some of u can't handle it ,,,,,,sorry .

I hope i get my part together and see you all in St Clair.

LATER:seeya:
 
Where u in destin in 2006 ??? After that one OSS / OPA .....i think **** hit the fan .

But hey maybe i missunderstand everybody and when i was sitting in a plain one day with a person from OSS maybe i miss understood him ,,,grow up guys .

And hey ,,,i had my problems with smitty and i think they are resolved.

Other then that most of the people are not like me,,,they dont say anything only in a dark room where they can't be identified. toooooo funny.

Most of u guys actually think i am a d... because i speak what i think and some of u can't handle it ,,,,,,sorry .

I hope i get my part together and see you all in St Clair.

LATER:seeya:

what part do you need ?
 
next year things will be better ,..no doubt.
most dis,enchanted's will fade during the changes being put in place now . good times ahead .
 
I have a question - from a fan, not a racer. I may have no place in this discussion, but here I go anyway.

I'm not a NASCAR fan by any means, so my numbers may be off a bit, but I think they're close. NASCAR runs 35 or so race weekends a year. Most of those weekends have 3 races each weekend plus qualifying. They are generally able to pull off the live television events that go along with those races. On major networks too. They have a huge fan and sponsor base. Is it out of the question to think that offshore racing (or any form of boat racing for that matter) has the potential to operate similarly? Is that too many races for a season? If yes why? Is it naive of me to think that everyone could set their differences aside long enough to race each other each week? Can one set of rules be applied so even if there are multiple organizations, racers can still race each other?
 
I think currently the bigger problem is lack of boats in upper classes.

People spend so much to race unchallenged. How do you stop that?

No flags, Checks, or titles for solo runs in upper classes?

If you're racing alone, how much of a race is it? Is it really racing?
 
36 actually.....and you have 3 different classes all running their own race so thus the confusion is taken out of the equation.....

I think the answer you are looking for is that people get pi$$ed and take their toys to a different sandbox and the great rift starts and continues until we decide to unify and then the vicious cycle begins over again!!!!
 
I hope the dictator moves it back to open water and returns offshore to a demonstration of endurance.

really not practicle from the business sense, but thats what drew me to offshore and desert racing when I was a kid. Seeing stuff like the baja 1000 and offshore races on tv fascinated me, the aspect of control. sure your racing someone else, but even moreso your racing yourself -walking a very fine line between going fast and tearing stuff up. Baja is still like that, ask anyone who has done it, finishing it is the accomplishment, winning is just icing on the cake. BTWT... I hope the horba stuff takes off, I really want to give that a try when I finish school.
 
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