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Chris

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I don't read many political commentators but I do like Charles Krauthammer.

I was reading this the other day and some of what was written struck me.

In writing about this recent Christmas day airliner bombing attempt, he made a good point- The current administration, under their existing policies, would have had absolutely no problem directing a Predator UAV to launch a missile at Umar Abdulmutallab for conducting what we would surmise to be terrorist planning. But when he boards an airliner and during the flight over US soil he attempts to bring that airliner down with a concealed bomb, not only do we stop calling him a terrorist, we stop treating him like one. We label him an "extremist", arrest him under civilian authority, read him his Miranda rights and provide him with the full due process of our civilian legal system.

What exactly does it take to be labelled an enemy combatant?

Although I don't like cut and paste, you have to have a membership to read-

A terrorist war Obama has denied

By Charles KrauthammerFriday, January 1, 2010
Janet Napolitano -- former Arizona governor, now overmatched secretary of homeland security -- will forever be remembered for having said of the attempt to bring down an airliner over Detroit: "The system worked." The attacker's concerned father had warned U.S. authorities about his son's jihadist tendencies. The would-be bomber paid cash and checked no luggage on a transoceanic flight. He was nonetheless allowed to fly, and would have killed 288 people in the air alone, save for a faulty detonator and quick actions by a few passengers.
Heck of a job, Brownie.
The reason the country is uneasy about the Obama administration's response to this attack is a distinct sense of not just incompetence but incomprehension. From the very beginning, President Obama has relentlessly tried to play down and deny the nature of the terrorist threat we continue to face. Napolitano renames terrorism "man-caused disasters." Obama goes abroad and pledges to cleanse America of its post-9/11 counterterrorist sins. Hence, Guantanamo will close, CIA interrogators will face a special prosecutor, and Khalid Sheik Mohammed will bask in a civilian trial in New York -- a trifecta of political correctness and image management.
And just to make sure even the dimmest understand, Obama banishes the term "war on terror." It's over -- that is, if it ever existed.
Obama may have declared the war over. Unfortunately, al-Qaeda has not. Which gives new meaning to the term "asymmetric warfare."
And produces linguistic -- and logical -- oddities that littered Obama's public pronouncements following the Christmas Day attack. In his first statement, Obama referred to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab as "an isolated extremist." This is the same president who, after the Fort Hood, Tex., shooting, warned us "against jumping to conclusions" -- code for daring to associate the mass murder there with Nidal Hasan's Islamist ideology. Yet, with Abdulmutallab, Obama jumped immediately to the conclusion, against all existing evidence, that the would-be bomber acted alone.
More jarring still were Obama's references to the terrorist as a "suspect" who "allegedly tried to ignite an explosive device." You can hear the echo of FDR: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- Japanese naval and air force suspects allegedly bombed Pearl Harbor."
Obama reassured the nation that this "suspect" had been charged. Reassurance? The president should be saying: We have captured an enemy combatant -- an illegal combatant under the laws of war: no uniform, direct attack on civilians -- and now to prevent future attacks, he is being interrogated regarding information he may have about al-Qaeda in Yemen.
Instead, Abdulmutallab is dispatched to some Detroit-area jail and immediately lawyered up. At which point -- surprise! -- he stops talking.
This absurdity renders hollow Obama's declaration that "we will not rest until we find all who were involved." Once we've given Abdulmutallab the right to remain silent, we have gratuitously forfeited our right to find out from him precisely who else was involved, namely those who trained, instructed, armed and sent him.
This is all quite mad even in Obama's terms. He sends 30,000 troops to fight terror overseas, yet if any terrorists come to attack us here, they are magically transformed from enemy into defendant.
The logic is perverse. If we find Abdulmutallab in an al-Qaeda training camp in Yemen, where he is merely preparing for a terror attack, we snuff him out with a Predator -- no judge, no jury, no qualms. But if we catch him in the United States in the very act of mass murder, he instantly acquires protection not just from execution by drone but even from interrogation.
The president said that this incident highlights "the nature of those who threaten our homeland." But the president is constantly denying the nature of those who threaten our homeland. On Tuesday, he referred five times to Abdulmutallab (and his terrorist ilk) as "extremist."
A man who shoots abortion doctors is an extremist. An eco-fanatic who torches logging sites is an extremist. Abdulmutallab is not one of these. He is a jihadist. And unlike the guys who shoot abortion doctors, jihadists have cells all over the world; they blow up trains in London, nightclubs in Bali and airplanes over Detroit (if they can); and are openly pledged to war on America.
Any government can through laxity let someone slip through the cracks. But a government that refuses to admit that we are at war, indeed, refuses even to name the enemy -- jihadist is a word banished from the Obama lexicon -- turns laxity into a governing philosophy.
 
Anyone know how the no fly list works ? If this terrorist had been identified as a No Fly by our Homeland Security what follows ?
Does HSA then notify the foreign governments to not let him through their security check ?
or Does it fall on the airline to deny them a ticket and boarding ?
and
If it falls onto the foreign government to catch him how could we possibly count on that happening considering we can't coordinate data bases that talk with each other within our own govenment agencies.

ed
 
Anyone know how the no fly list works ? If this terrorist had been identified as a No Fly by our Homeland Security what follows ?
Does HSA then notify the foreign governments to not let him through their security check ?
or Does it fall on the airline to deny them a ticket and boarding ?
and
If it falls onto the foreign government to catch him how could we possibly count on that happening considering we can't coordinate data bases that talk with each other within our own govenment agencies.

ed

Thats the point.

How do you maintain a no fly list with 400,000 names on it when two thirds of the names have seventeen letters in them??

Almost impossible.

The whole topic is mind boggling
 
cash no luggage, no fly.

That should be a given. How you get past that is beyond me.

If I posted a pic of who does the screening at Toronto International Airport you would puke.

If you walk blindfolded into our airport and open your eyes you would never in a million years think you were in Canada.
 
I agree Chris. Krauthammer is a guy I always look forward to seeing or reading. No emotion, just facts and good reasoning.
 
Agreed, always enjoy listening to and reading his commentary... Listening to Kraut and Ben Stein really makes me wonder how we got stuck with so many total imbeciles in office.
 
Of course he did. Now we'll spend millions supplying him with attorneys, expert witnesses and physical protection so this whole charade can be broadcast like the OJ trial. And they win again. We kinda' gave them this one.
 
Of course he did. Now we'll spend millions supplying him with attorneys, expert witnesses and physical protection so this whole charade can be broadcast like the OJ trial. And they win again. We kinda' gave them this one.

Agreed

Plus...How much is it costing worldwide for all these new scanners?
How many holidays have been cancelled by families because of fear ?

Its letting the bad guys win.
 
I have a cousin who has bee trying to get off the no fly list for years.He has the same name and DOB as an IRA member.He can not check in online or use curbside checkin he always has to be screened at airports.Its a real pain as he flys a lot.
The air marshal program was in full blast after 911 now it has been cut back.Put one on every flight including ones inbound from other countrys would be more efective and cheaper than what we are doing now.
 
Thank the Supreme Court. They're the one's that ignored prior Court rulings on the specific issue and forced the access to our judicial system.
 
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