John Carbonell of SBI lives up to his BAD reputation!

[lucky devil]

Ron, Since you met with these people, do you think there is a chance these people could be persueded to allow another organisation race either in place of SBI or another weekend? I was thinking, if enough people contacted them, maybe a petition with a few thousand along with raising a bunch of money for them, maybe they will listen. Maybe we can let them know why attendence is so much lower then previous years. I know for a fact Stu Jones really dosen't care for JC as JC has treated Stu like crap. Maybe Stu would consider supporting the other organisation and have his run on that weekend instead of SBI's. I remember 2004, the pits were full, race boats everywhere. It reminded me of when i was a kid. I honestly feel the only reason we don't have that know is one reason John Carbonel.
Years ago, you could not get a room a week prior to race week. This year everyone had vacancys. Probably the economy being the main factor but only 55 race boats vs 120 of years past is also a good part of it.
I would honstly be willing to put a good effort (financially and with time) to seeing if we could pull this off. Why should JC own Key West and ruin it for so many others.

My original post on this thread was about being careful what steps you take to see the status quo in Key West change. I'm attaching a couple of files about another racing series where people got sideways, and one party paid dearly for it.

 

[PARADOX]

I'm just waiting for my "Thread deletion WTF" thread to be deleted. by JokeCo

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[kirby]

OSO is now owned by OPRAH LOL

 

[MarylandMark]

Lucky Devil- you seem to know a lot about this.

Would you be willing to help pull it off or not so much?

 

[cosmic12]

I'm just waiting for my "Thread deletion WTF" thread to be deleted. by JokeCo

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Looks like Nancy found it.:rofl:

 

[kirby]

I am not heather " speedgirl " or " packin steve " so lighten up .

 

[Chris]

This sport was born of guys who loved boats talking $hit about who could go faster or get somewhere quicker. They didn't start building long, skinny boats because they thought people would like to buy them. They built them so they could race. We owe everything to those people. I personally love offshore powerboat racing. I especially loved the no-holds-barred open ocean racing. I'm not in love with every thing about present-day offshore racing nor am I enamored with all the charachters involved in the sport. But that doesn't mean I would ever want to give up on it.

 

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I just love to race.

 

[Ron P]

Ron, Since you met with these people, do you think there is a chance these people could be persueded to allow another organisation race either in place of SBI or another weekend? I was thinking, if enough people contacted them, maybe a petition with a few thousand along with raising a bunch of money for them, maybe they will listen. Maybe we can let them know why attendence is so much lower then previous years. I know for a fact Stu Jones really dosen't care for JC as JC has treated Stu like crap. Maybe Stu would consider supporting the other organisation and have his run on that weekend instead of SBI's.

Hey Gino,

There is already some Key West locals working on bringing OSS to KW in July of 09. Wanna help make it happen? Give me a call. or email.

Ron

 

[stecz20]

:sifone: Don't get upset ...We love it that you put money into Racing sbi /opa / popra whatever .. Cuzz You dont get it back LOL ......Other than oss have you ever taken youre Petey Skooter to 1st place ? 2nd place , 3rd place? (mind you 3 boats have to compete for a real third .) LOL. Youre a Ray wannabe . Sep you cant get little girly bar flys . Ha . LOL

hey kirby, i like you.. im gonna introduce you to mashers sister... shes real nice......:03::03:

 

[Toasty]

:sifone: Don't get upset ...We love it that you put money into Racing sbi /opa / popra whatever .. Cuzz You dont get it back LOL ......Other than oss have you ever taken youre Petey Skooter to 1st place ? 2nd place , 3rd place? (mind you 3 boats have to compete for a real third .) LOL. Youre a Ray wannabe . Sep you cant get little girly bar flys . Ha . LOL

again this is why offshore boat racing will never be what it should.......
instead of banding together you always are putting down your own kind. Last time i observed, Beck was paying his own race way and at many races. Hes doing what he loves, and has a wealth of knowledge. Lets think and understand whos reading "our" rants, it may effect future years of the sport...

Clean it up Gang!

Gino i think you have lots of guts to be doing what you are, if you need any help from the north east states please let me know! Id be happy to write letters or make phone calls in a respectuful and meaningful manner.

Regards,
Christian Del Collo
Business & Real Estate Management
856-904-1961

 

[Lubejobs42]

Hey Gino,

There is already some Key West locals working on bringing OSS to KW in July of 09. Wanna help make it happen? Give me a call. or email.

Ron

Unfortunitlly, I don't think July is going to cut it. In October it's fall all over the contry and boating is over just about everywhere but here. People come down to the Key west run as the last run before winter and people winterize their boats. I don't believe there will be any kind of turn out in July. Maybe i'm wrong but i think the Worlds is what we should target.

 

[MarylandMark]

As well as any run other than the Worlds would compete with FPC vs having them on your side..

 

[Ratickle]

Unfortunitlly, I don't think July is going to cut it. In October it's fall all over the contry and boating is over just about everywhere but here. People come down to the Key west run as the last run before winter and people winterize their boats. I don't believe there will be any kind of turn out in July. Maybe i'm wrong but i think the Worlds is what we should target.

That's true, there are so many conflicting Poker Runs, Races, etc. it's hard to choose. The World's is the only thing going on in July. What about a true World's in Costa Rica? I heard there is a good casino there and the water is outstanding. Maybe the weekend of Thanksgiving?

 

[Fever Mike]

You all are wasting your time and money with boat racing. This type of thing has been going on for years! I have been reading these same coments from different people on the internet since 1996! Anyone ever remember rec.boats.power.racing? Yes that is how far back I go with message boards.

I once had the gusto to try to do something good for this so called sport back in the late 90's up till 2001. I did some good, got zero appreciation and got tired of the crooks, A-Holes and big wallet know it all's that ran off every TV show and major sponsor plus fans. Stick with the Poker Runs, get togethers and lake shoot outs.

 

[boatme]

Poker runs are great, and should stick around. I am still a big fan of fun runs and Poker Run events. Difference is, that Poker Runs to be run under a whole new format today ( I have already posted my feelings on this)

More rendezvous should take place, and Racing should continue to try to make the sport better

Just because of the problems in the sport today, should not mean we don’t keep trying
Yes it is an uphill battle but it is not insurmountable given the right people and the determination to keep working on it (more funds would help as well) The ideas are growing and there is movement to make change, and to make racing more of a sport for all to watch and more to participate in. We do not stop trying

Mike I know it is frustrating, and I have been soured on racing from the days my wife and I put on a couple of races, she was also an official for the APBA. Many years ago

Trust me I have looked into the eye of the eye of the devil! I am not ready to give up on the sport; as a matter of fact I am intending to get more involved in the next year or two. I now have a better idea of whom and what the deal is, and I am hoping to fight the devil for a while to see if more can be done.

I don’t know if I will have anything new to bring to the table, but I am going to try to help where I can. I love offshore boating of all types, and I am not content to watch it fade away because of guys like JC. He won’t be around forever, he will stop doing his thing at some point, and we need to be ready for that day. Not to mention to continue trying new things until one works better than what is done today.
I am one of those guys who if I complain enough I need to shut up or do something about it. This is how I got started putting on Smoke On The Water with my partner in the poker runs Bob L. and I think our ideas worked well in its time
I have *****ed enough about racing, so now I am going to try to use my *****ing more constructively and try to help I am not content to say it is all over

You have only herd the beginning of this from me.

Mike I hope I can have some small input into the sport enough that you will say to yourself” it is getting better”. I know there are some people in the background that are working hard to try and make racing better. I hope I can help them with there efforts. They are the true champions and have been trying for a long time and they have some great ideas. I hope I can help them try a few of these ideas out and see if they work

Marc

 

[PARADOX]

Take a look at the "Red Bull Air races " venue.
Well organized race all over.. millions of spectators (with no planes) TV coverage. etc.
Growing leaps and bounds..

Offshore races can be and should be the same way with appropriate people and managements.

 

[boatme]

Amen

 

[kirby]

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[sal cimino]

there are some very hard working people in offshore powerboat racing..both in oss & sbi. just because someone is head of an organization doesn't mean that they have to be a total ass%^(*.... I tried to talk to john carbonell about sbi a few years ago and got blown out of the water... friends like him you dodn't need enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!