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MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
I sure hope you can not win a World Championship with out completing a race. Heck 7.1 miles in second race, 0 in first.
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
I can see the crowding, the jumping the start I do not agree with. The boats on the close side failed to stay in line more then the Victory Teams jumped.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I'm assuming they've already won. No other boats in the class and they got a start on Friday. Actually ran 1 3/4 laps!!!!
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
If you watch over and over from the 16:30 mark or so, it looks like they shotgunned the start and were a bit early. The yellow is up a long time.
Is that Wake Effects way on the inside of the pace boat? Farther over than Chocolate??
https://livestream.com/sbi/keywest2018day2/videos/183342054
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Here's from the SBI rulebook.
h. The pace boat determines the actual start by simultaneously dropping the yellow flag and raising the green flag.
i. The starter, wearing orange gloves and/or using orange batons and an orange vest (if necessary) over his P.F.D., aboard the pace boat will utilize hand signals to control the starting fleet.
j. Racing may only begin when the green flag is raised; however, the official start for timing purposes is when the first boat crosses the starting line.
h. The pace boat determines the actual start by simultaneously dropping the yellow flag and raising the green flag.
i. The starter, wearing orange gloves and/or using orange batons and an orange vest (if necessary) over his P.F.D., aboard the pace boat will utilize hand signals to control the starting fleet.
j. Racing may only begin when the green flag is raised; however, the official start for timing purposes is when the first boat crosses the starting line.
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
I watched it over and over. They did nothing wrong on start. They did however just cruise around IMO. The 3 boat turned in a 121 mph lap. I suspect the two boats cruised around together until the one hosed the other in front of mole. The following lap the 3 hosed them back in same place. I believe both boats have a lot left and can turn in much faster laps. If Wake effects gets a good run in we will have a chance to see what #3 has really got.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I'm surprised they are not enforcing the rules on a couple of the boats that are no where close to meeting the requirements. Maybe they will if those boats win?
2018 SBIP General Rulebook Revised 8/22/18 Page 16 of 75
will place the boat in the appropriate class. Points must remain in the class in which they were awarded and are not transferable. An additional boat registration fee is not required unless the new class fees dictate a high fee than originally paid. If a boat transfers to a lower class, a registration credit shall not be allowed.
9. Numbers Criteria – Numbers on all race boats shall meet the following criteria:
a. National Series Event Boats –
1. Numbers - All National Series Classes (Superboat Unlimited, Superboat, Superboat Extreme, Superboat Vee, Superboat Stock, Manufacturer Production (P3, P4) race boat numbers shall contain no more than three (3) digits and shall range from Number 2 through Number 999. National Series Class boats use standard numbers as described in section “9-b All Classes”.
2. Legibility – National Series boats are required to have standard black numbers over a white background with a black border. It is the responsibility of the boat owner to have numbers that are legible for scoring purposes. If the standard numbers do not meet minimum requirements, the boat may risk not being scored, and can be required to change the numbers before the next race or receive a penalty.
3. Duplication - Numbers in all National Series Classes will be assigned by SBIP and may not be duplicated within any of the National Series Classes. Preference for numbers shall be given to boats already registered. In the event duplicate numbers currently exist, the boat with the earlier date of registration shall be assigned that number.
b. All Classes – Numbers shall be in black, vertical, block lettering over a white background.
1. Border - If applied to a white hull, a black border must surround them.
2. Height, Width, Stroke, Spacing - The minimum height of each number shall be eighteen inches (18"); minimum width shall be thirteen (13"); minimum stroke shall be three inches (3"); minimum spacing between each number shall be four inches (4"). The single exception to this can be the number "1" when used with another digit in which case the width may be narrower.
3. Location - The racing numbers shall be clearly visible on either beam and from above. Those numbers shall be displayed on the foredeck and shall read correctly from the driver's position and shall be underlined by a black bar. Side numbers shall be on the front half of the hull.
4. Scoring - Numbers not meeting these rules or any number that becomes unreadable during an event will be scored at the discretion of the chief scorer and/or chief referee of that event. (See Diagram 9-b-5).
2018 SBIP General Rulebook Revised 8/22/18 Page 16 of 75
will place the boat in the appropriate class. Points must remain in the class in which they were awarded and are not transferable. An additional boat registration fee is not required unless the new class fees dictate a high fee than originally paid. If a boat transfers to a lower class, a registration credit shall not be allowed.
9. Numbers Criteria – Numbers on all race boats shall meet the following criteria:
a. National Series Event Boats –
1. Numbers - All National Series Classes (Superboat Unlimited, Superboat, Superboat Extreme, Superboat Vee, Superboat Stock, Manufacturer Production (P3, P4) race boat numbers shall contain no more than three (3) digits and shall range from Number 2 through Number 999. National Series Class boats use standard numbers as described in section “9-b All Classes”.
2. Legibility – National Series boats are required to have standard black numbers over a white background with a black border. It is the responsibility of the boat owner to have numbers that are legible for scoring purposes. If the standard numbers do not meet minimum requirements, the boat may risk not being scored, and can be required to change the numbers before the next race or receive a penalty.
3. Duplication - Numbers in all National Series Classes will be assigned by SBIP and may not be duplicated within any of the National Series Classes. Preference for numbers shall be given to boats already registered. In the event duplicate numbers currently exist, the boat with the earlier date of registration shall be assigned that number.
b. All Classes – Numbers shall be in black, vertical, block lettering over a white background.
1. Border - If applied to a white hull, a black border must surround them.
2. Height, Width, Stroke, Spacing - The minimum height of each number shall be eighteen inches (18"); minimum width shall be thirteen (13"); minimum stroke shall be three inches (3"); minimum spacing between each number shall be four inches (4"). The single exception to this can be the number "1" when used with another digit in which case the width may be narrower.
3. Location - The racing numbers shall be clearly visible on either beam and from above. Those numbers shall be displayed on the foredeck and shall read correctly from the driver's position and shall be underlined by a black bar. Side numbers shall be on the front half of the hull.
4. Scoring - Numbers not meeting these rules or any number that becomes unreadable during an event will be scored at the discretion of the chief scorer and/or chief referee of that event. (See Diagram 9-b-5).
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
A great week of racing overall. Congrats to the winners.e
It was nice to watch on live stream. Mike did a great job calling the race. Thank you
It was nice to watch on live stream. Mike did a great job calling the race. Thank you
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Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
So the green flag is up, the two Victory boats are at least 100' behind, (that's a 50' red boat), but they get penalized for jumping the start.
Go figure......:banghead:
Green flag at 2:09
https://livestream.com/sbi/keywest2018day2/videos/183342054
Go figure......:banghead:
Green flag at 2:09
https://livestream.com/sbi/keywest2018day2/videos/183342054
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john acosta
Member
the question you should be asking is ,,,what are the qualifications of the chief referee,and WHO really makes the final decision in these matters?
I do believe smittys crew will manage this area much better.
I do believe smittys crew will manage this area much better.
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
Who are you kidding? Smitty is the chief referee. While he is racing there is no referee. I have been victim of his charade before.
john acosta
Member
well aint that a kick in the pants?
I knew sbi chief referee wasn't much to write home about.
now youre telling me smitty is as bad?
oh well.so larrys the answer?
I knew sbi chief referee wasn't much to write home about.
now youre telling me smitty is as bad?
oh well.so larrys the answer?
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