Ford shows profit.

SES Taures 170000 miles bought new 2000 every thing still works don't burn oil:) Will buy another 1 no regrets here:seeya:
 

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Use Ford for all my business trucks.
Have had 2 F350's to pull boat
had 2 explorers
had a 2006 Mustang.

ALL of them have been trouble free, rattle free and a good value.

Had 2 Grand Cherokees - both had trans problems, and one stranded me
Had a Tahoe - what a POS! Cheap plastic and pretty much a snap together interior. Would have a small lake on drivers side after rain, and other minor issues.

My father was a VW dealer while I was growing up, so American cars were frowned upon in our family. I do have a Jetta too and it is a very solid car.
 
Ford has made a lot of progress on their plan, and after mortgaging everything at the last possible second before the capital markets collapsed they have lucked out GM and Chrysler couldn't borrow privately. I'd say the biggest thing they have going for them is public sentiment of not being bailed out. It's amazing how that rubs off on the laypersons perceptions of their products as better, etc.

They are on the right path, but a long way from safe due to their massive debt load and lack of UAW help getting even more competitive.
 
I'd say the biggest thing they have going for them is public sentiment of not being bailed out. It's amazing how that rubs off on the laypersons perceptions of their products as better, etc.

You're wrong on this one, Ford's rise in quality began well before the bailout era and now rivals Toyota and Honda.
 
Use Ford for all my business trucks.
Have had 2 F350's to pull boat
had 2 explorers
had a 2006 Mustang.

ALL of them have been trouble free, rattle free and a good value.

Now how about for your boat? :sifone:
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You're wrong on this one, Ford's rise in quality began well before the bailout era and now rivals Toyota and Honda.


I'm wrong that I don't think that? Guess you misunderstand an opinion. If you just read a little on the internet you'll see far more "I'll buy a Ford now but never a government motors cuz I'm no socialist" rather than "Ford has first class quality so I'll buy one" which is what I've based my opinion on.

I'm more than a little aware of Ford's quality improvements over the past few years. I'd say I'm more aware of both Ford's turnaround plan and GM's in this time frame than very few would have the "privilage" of being.;)

Also, when I say product perception I mean the whole package, style, performance, quality interiors (rather than durability type quality as measured in reports).
 
I'm wrong that I don't think that? Guess you misunderstand an opinion. If you just read a little on the internet you'll see far more "I'll buy a Ford now but never a government motors cuz I'm no socialist" rather than "Ford has first class quality so I'll buy one" which is what I've based my opinion on.

I'm more than a little aware of Ford's quality improvements over the past few years. I'd say I'm more aware of both Ford's turnaround plan and GM's in this time frame than very few would have the "privilage" of being.;)

Also, when I say product perception I mean the whole package, style, performance, quality interiors (rather than durability type quality as measured in reports).

You're right, I apoligize. I should have said, "In my opinion your opinion is wrong". :sifone:

In my opinion it was good business sense and not "luck" that landed Ford in their current position.
 
It started when the latest ford family member had the wherewithall to get out of the way and hire a real CEO. One of his first ideas was to sell off profitable divisions. The Ford guy asks why he would do that. He said, becasue we can get a good price for them and sink it into the Ford product.

Now, if only they would also sell off the Detroit Lions. . .
 
I still don't understand why the major automakers had so many sub-companies under their belts. Ford/Lincoln?mercury - Chevy/GMC/Cadillac/Hummer/Saturn/Uranus. say whatever you want about separate business models and styles, there is significant duplication of effort that could have been streamlined.
 
I still don't understand why the major automakers had so many sub-companies under their belts. Ford/Lincoln?mercury - Chevy/GMC/Cadillac/Hummer/Saturn/Uranus. say whatever you want about separate business models and styles, there is significant duplication of effort that could have been streamlined.



look up at the sky, whats that? Uranus... :rofl:
 
I still don't understand why the major automakers had so many sub-companies under their belts. Ford/Lincoln?mercury - Chevy/GMC/Cadillac/Hummer/Saturn/Uranus. say whatever you want about separate business models and styles, there is significant duplication of effort that could have been streamlined.

I think that is exactly what is going on. I just wish the G8, Soltice and SKY would have become Chev or Buick models. :(

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I see a bunch of guys standing around not working.

Kind of like city or county workers. One guy working, and nine guys watching. They have no incentive to make a profit. It's a fine example of what socialism will do.
 
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