F1 engine technology

[Maximus]

miss geico no offense but i just don,t like the turbines they killed the unlimited class that used to be called thunder boats now we watch the unlimited lite class with the blown alky engines nothing comes close to a supercharged engine working its heart out to make the hair on your neck stand up! anyone here remember the old Dirty Laundry or INXS there have been many but i remember the sound of those 2 ....theres enough room in a mystic hull to get at least 3 engines per side....ilmore dude how come we never see a good old 16-71 blower sitting on top of one of those beauties? will they take boost i would think 1000hp ought to be pretty easy?

None taken. I love the sound too...just like the performance and reliability of turbines more. Unfortunatly unless its rough rough , Pistons are no match The bump equalizes offshore.

. I'll be at Daytona for the Rolex 24 to hear those tweaked engines sing in two weeks.

I'll let you guys know if I hear that project get serious.


miss g

 

[C_Spray]

I remember that race well. Unser, Fittipaldi and Tracy had those cars. Tracy had a crash in testing and had to sit out first rounds of Qualifying and thus Unser got the Pole.

I always wondered how much they were sand bagging back then. It didn't take Tracy long to catch up to the front of the pack before his went Poof.

Actually, we weren't sandbagging that much. The problem was that the tires weren't designed to handle the extra aerodynamic loads we could put on them, so the only advantage we had was on the straights. (Emmo clocked 252 mph the day before qualifying!!) Tracy's failure was actually a turbo, not the engine itself.

 

[Steve Miklos]

Did someone say Can-Am?

I recenty became the "custodian" of this. A very good friend worked for Canon as a photographer. He and his wife took this Shadow race team chair and collected a few autographs. Chucky I was thinking of you when I first saw it!

 

[Steve Miklos]

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[Steve Miklos]

Lunchbox

Chuck no making fun of the Evel lunchbox LLamafeeder bought me that!
Steve

 

[Perlmudder]

None taken. I love the sound too...just like the performance and reliability of turbines more. Unfortunatly unless its rough rough , Pistons are no match The bump equalizes offshore.

. I'll be at Daytona for the Rolex 24 to hear those tweaked engines sing in two weeks.

I'll let you guys know if I hear that project get serious.


miss g

Oh man, you are lucky. a good friend of mine is racing in the Rolex 24 hour. Eric Lux car 86. said he could get me pit passes and all, just had to make it to daytona. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the timing will work. But it has got to be a blast

 

[C_Spray]

Chuck no making fun of the Evel lunchbox LLamafeeder bought me that! Steve

Cripes! The pictures are so fuzzy, I can hardly make anything out, much less a lunchbox! :ack2:

There's way more than Can-Am signatures on there. Looks like it could be a nice retirement bonus some day. No one's going to get Mark Donohue, James Hunt, Denny Hulme or Tom Pryce to autograph anything any more. Also looks like:

1. Bobby Unser
2. Al Unser (Sr.)
3. Bob Nagel
4. Sam Posey
5. Roger Penske
6. Johnny Rutherford
7. A.J. Foyt
8. Jackie Oliver
9. Tom Sneva
10. Jean-Pierre Jarier
11. David Hobbs
12. Gordon Johncock
13. Brian Redman
14. George Follmer
15. Mario Andretti
16. Jackie Stewart (?)

..and a couple that I can't make out. NICE!

(...I just remembered that I have a spark plug from the 917/30 that I got from Mark Donohue in the pits at Mid-Ohio in 1974. I have a front wheel fan from that car on my desk, too!)

 

[C_Spray]

Oh man, you are lucky. a good friend of mine is racing in the Rolex 24 hour. Eric Lux car 86. said he could get me pit passes and all, just had to make it to daytona. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the timing will work. But it has got to be a blast

Any relation to Cindy Lux? She's done some driving for me.

 

[Steve Miklos]

Cripes! The pictures are so fuzzy, I can hardly make anything out, much less a lunchbox! :ack2:

There's way more than Can-Am signatures on there. Looks like it could be a nice retirement bonus some day. No one's going to get Mark Donohue, James Hunt, Denny Hulme or Tom Pryce to autograph anything any more. Also looks like:

1. Bobby Unser
2. Al Unser (Sr.)
3. Bob Nagel
4. Sam Posey
5. Roger Penske
6. Johnny Rutherford
7. A.J. Foyt
8. Jackie Oliver
9. Tom Sneva
10. Jean-Pierre Jarier
11. David Hobbs
12. Gordon Johncock
13. Brian Redman
14. George Follmer
15. Mario Andretti
16. Jackie Stewart (?)

..and a couple that I can't make out. NICE!

(...I just remembered that I have a spark plug from the 917/30 that I got from Mark Donohue in the pits at Mid-Ohio in 1974. I have a front wheel fan from that car on my desk, too!)

I remembered you telling me about the spark plug and recently shared that story with the chairs owner and another friend . Sorry about the pictures it was a camera phone! I just last night heard a story about Tom Price I was not familiar with him until now. The chair just fits into the trunk of a 550 Maranello when folded up. We went to dinner he offered and I was not leaving without it!
Steve

 

[Steve Miklos]

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[ILMORdude]

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I swear when i read your name i said "No $hit, its the bouncer from Jerry Springer!!!"

 

[Steve Miklos]

Illmor

Nope not him!
I have met Ian and Paul from Ilmor when I was the Competition Director for APBA not sure if we have ever met. Your products speak for themselves.
Steve

 

[Perlmudder]

Any relation to Cindy Lux? She's done some driving for me.

I think that is his mom, they live in Buffalo NY. I am pretty sure his mom and dad both did some racing. Eric is the only person I have ever been terrified in the car with. First time I met him years back he took his A4 drifting around a little circle park at about 70mph sideways.

 

[ILMORdude]

Nope not him!
I have met Ian and Paul from Ilmor when I was the Competition Director for APBA not sure if we have ever met. Your products speak for themselves.
Steve

Haha, yea i know your not. Just at first glance it looks like his name. We have not met before as i have only been at ILMOR for 5 yrs. Thanks for the compliment!

Nick-

 

[C_Spray]

Nick - Is there a copy of the Ilmor book somewhere around your offices? It makes interesting reading, especially the pushrod engine development program. Incredible effort on that project - I'm not sure how I lived through it!

 

[TrippM]

I might know some of your friends; I was on the CART team for Penske from 1980-1998 (ran it from 1989-1998) and still work for RP.

Our engine program shut down in 2001 through the Honda years, then re-opened for a while in the early IRL days (2002-2005??) for the Olds-based and Toyota engines. It closed for good when the team went back to Hondas a few years back, and then the whole operation (car preparation and all) moved out of Reading, PA to the stock car shop in Mooresville, NC in the fall of 2006. There is no engine shop at all down there. The stock car engines are built at Penske-Jasper in Concord, NC, Porsche handles all the work on the Daytona Prototype engines and the very same Ilmor guys that do the marine engines handle 100% of the Penske engine work, as the do for all the IRL Honda engines for every car in the series.

Ilmor's history is on their web site to read, but it's an enormously cut-down version of all that has gone on. Trust me - Ilmor has the credentials to hold their own within any racing category.

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You probably did or do know some of my friends because they actually worked for CART. Those were some good times and some great racing. I miss it.

The Penske organization is top notch. The cars are always well prepared and turned out very nicely. First class all the way. I'm also familiar with Ilmor and know they have an extensive racing history. A very capable company.

You're a lucky man to be associated with two very fine organizations.

 

[Maximus]

Oh man, you are lucky. a good friend of mine is racing in the Rolex 24 hour. Eric Lux car 86. said he could get me pit passes and all, just had to make it to daytona. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the timing will work. But it has got to be a blast

Me and my boys will cheer for him.

 

[Steve Miklos]

Cripes! The pictures are so fuzzy, I can hardly make anything out, much less a lunchbox! :ack2:

There's way more than Can-Am signatures on there. Looks like it could be a nice retirement bonus some day. No one's going to get Mark Donohue, James Hunt, Denny Hulme or Tom Pryce to autograph anything any more. Also looks like:

1. Bobby Unser
2. Al Unser (Sr.)
3. Bob Nagel
4. Sam Posey
5. Roger Penske
6. Johnny Rutherford
7. A.J. Foyt
8. Jackie Oliver
9. Tom Sneva
10. Jean-Pierre Jarier
11. David Hobbs
12. Gordon Johncock
13. Brian Redman
14. George Follmer
15. Mario Andretti
16. Jackie Stewart (?)

..and a couple that I can't make out. NICE!

(...I just remembered that I have a spark plug from the 917/30 that I got from Mark Donohue in the pits at Mid-Ohio in 1974. I have a front wheel fan from that car on my desk, too!)

Took a 2nd look last night also:
Peter Revson
Hurley Haywood
Richard Petty
One I cannot read I will get you a good photo and see if recognise it.
Steve

 

[RMBuilder]

Indy 1994 - A one-off program to stick their rules up.....never mind.

209 cubic inches, 55 inches of boost (about 12 psi), 9,800 rpm = 1,012 hp. This was 200 hp more than everybody else. We raced it once, won the race, retired the engine. Silly rules were changed - Mission accomplished.

By the way - this is a two-valve rocker-arm engine.... :drool5:

Chuck,

That engine was a work of art.
Let me see if I get the photo posting correct.

Bob

 

[RMBuilder]

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