DOW Triple Bottom?

Bottom?...No way!

We'll be in the 5000's 1Q'09 after the inauguration, the big-3 fold, and the dismal, lower-than-expected consumer holiday sales figures are released.
 
I do not see a contraction to 5000. At least I sure as hell hope not. I find it hard to believe there is even a hint of the market being worth 35% of what is was only one year ago. Hit 7775 three times now.... Any significant news doesnt seem to affect it either way now.... seems to have a mind of its own

Obviously not an expert but DAMN! :leaving:
 
5500 is my call.... when they file, people are gonna sh it..... i dont care who you are, when thats public, wait a few hours, then buy, buy , buy......
 
I think think all three file, Ford comes out ahead, GM comes out but as a completely diff organiztion from what we know it as today and Chrysler is GONE. I think we'll see the filings within 2 weeks.

As far as the market being worth 35% of what it was a year ago........ It wasn't worth the valuation then. Thats what got us here to start with. A 14K dow was over-valued by 5K at that point. The next 5 years will be sobering (not a word Fund)
 
GM is the worst. Ford and Chrysler will be OK. GM will get a ground up face lift and will go from eight lines to 2 or 3. How many of you still drive an Oldsmobile?
 
I do not see a contraction to 5000. At least I sure as hell hope not. I find it hard to believe there is even a hint of the market being worth 35% of what is was only one year ago. Hit 7775 three times now.... Any significant news doesnt seem to affect it either way now.... seems to have a mind of its own

Obviously not an expert but DAMN! :leaving:

Well, that's just it...world indexes weren't worth nearly what they were being touted at. I don't think it's unrealistic at all to expect to see us back where we were 10, maybe 12 years ago, when all this real estate shadiness began. Couple that with the industrial breakdown situation we see today, and OUCH. I'm betting on a retraction to late-90s levels, before the Clintons said everyone deserves a home, so give 'em loans they can't afford.

We're going to correct to somewhere around here, I think:
 

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No, filing is not "out of business" at all, but I think that Chrysler will only delay it's meeting with destiny by filing. They are soooooooooo far behind the ball I can't see them making it.
 
No, filing is not "out of business" at all, but I think that Chrysler will only delay it's meeting with destiny by filing. They are soooooooooo far behind the ball I can't see them making it.

I can see your grease ball azz in a Viper all day long.....
 
GM is the worst. Ford and Chrysler will be OK. GM will get a ground up face lift and will go from eight lines to 2 or 3. How many of you still drive an Oldsmobile?

GM has its fingers in more things than those two combined so they have more "fluff" and will be able to regroup and go on, Ford and Chrysler may not be so able.
 
No, filing is not "out of business" at all, but I think that Chrysler will only delay it's meeting with destiny by filing. They are soooooooooo far behind the ball I can't see them making it.

Chrysler has Diamler backing them so they will be OK. GM is going to have to do a 180 and come out another company. Ford will file, get rid of the union contracts and be OK.

I still think the bottom is only going to be around 7250.
 
Well, that's just it...world indexes weren't worth nearly what they were being touted at. I don't think it's unrealistic at all to expect to see us back where we were 10, maybe 12 years ago, when all this real estate shadiness began. Couple that with the industrial breakdown situation we see today, and OUCH. I'm betting on a retraction to late-90s levels, before the Clintons said everyone deserves a home, so give 'em loans they can't afford.

We're going to correct to somewhere around here, I think:

I think you are not factoring in the Tech Industry. The Tech industry created billions of jobs and industry all over the globe. there has to be some value factored into your 6000 number that reflect a major industry that didnt exist for the most part prior. I am not an expert but that was an industry that didnt really exist until the 90s and it has to be factored in as a new sustainable industry. We have already seen that self destruct and we recovered to a somewhat normal level.
 
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