When someone figures it out, please explain it to us also. We dont have a problem running P-4 Speeds, but cant be competitive in 4 against a twin engine 35 foot boat, or a much lighter boat than ours with 750HP, they just have too much acceleration, and pull us every corner. 3rd is the best we could do in P-4(reason we pulled out early, no need to take a chance beating ourselves and equipment up), however if we moved to 5 we would be just like the other boats in 4, overpowering the real 5's I guess you could say we're misfits:biggrinjester: