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catastrophe
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I read on here , the feelings of members towards illegal immigrants that eat off the plate of those that work for what they eat, how they burden your taxes with protecting them and paying their way which you shouldnt have to do.
They should take away every beret thats worn in Quebec and replace it with a sombrero.That would help visualize my point.
"Viva La Difference"...should be replaced with..." Fit in or Fucck Off"
fund razor
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A member of our forum community made his discomfort clear.
I was trying to build bridges as a representative of the forum. But that's clearly not what you want in this case.
If a bunch of illegal mexican immigrants join SOS, and openly express hurt feelings about how we talk about them... we'll have to tone that argument down, too.
I'm going to politely leave this thread before things go bad.
Have a good day.
I was trying to build bridges as a representative of the forum. But that's clearly not what you want in this case.
If a bunch of illegal mexican immigrants join SOS, and openly express hurt feelings about how we talk about them... we'll have to tone that argument down, too.
I'm going to politely leave this thread before things go bad.
Have a good day.
catastrophe
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As with any generalization, there will be exceptions. No disrespect to you personally, but generally speaking, you have to admit that Quebec is not exactly held in the highest regard - neither by the U.S. and apparently not by Canadians who are not from Quebec. It's a French thing, and a separationist thing. It's kind of like Louisiana, ya sure there are some great folks that are from there, but still, It's Louisiana. [intended purely in jest]
Wrinkleface
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Deep breath everybody!!!! Hey, Alec & Cig were on a MoFo boat!!!:biggrinjester: Lucky buggers!!!:toetap05:
bluellama
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I am currently sitting 30 minutes from the Quebec border, and 30 minutes from the New York border. I know good people from New York and good people from Quebec.
I have never met a New Yorker who despised my existance as an English speaking Canadian, I wish I could say the same thing about the Quebecois.
I have never met a New Yorker who despised my existance as an English speaking Canadian, I wish I could say the same thing about the Quebecois.
Airpacker
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Dominic, please understand that this is not directed at you unless you are a supporter of Les Separatists.
Oh boy, now here is a topic where I am indisputably qualified to comment with pure and unadulterated hatred. While not directed at any particular individual but rather an entire "community", hatred is exactly what I harbour. That community is not the french speaking inhabitant of Quebec but rather the arrogant, self important, hypicritical hard core separatist legions.
My sir name is Rodrigue. To this day I have direct blood relatives all over north america. From the east coast to the west coast and from the far north of Canada to the Bayou country of Louisianna but the majority are in Quebec, Vermont and New Hampshire. We have spread far and wide
My father's family emmigrated from Portugal in the 1400's to France and then via the not yet USA to "New France" which became Quebec in 1642 so yes, we do have a little experience with the Quebecois.
My dad and uncle and one of four aunts left La Belle Province in 1949 to make a better life for themselves. They did not speak one word of English when they arrived in Toronto. Why? because speaking English in school was against the rules and grounds for severe corporal punishment at the hands of the Priests and Nuns who ran the schools.
Myself and my sibblings and cousins are the first generation on non primarily French speakers in our immediate family. Matter of fact, outside of ordering a beer and some poutine, I am pretty much French illiterate.
Quebec has to be one of if not THE most racist, bigotted and hypocritcal places on the planet earth. They scream out for respect all the while disrespecting those who call them countrymen. They enact laws FORCING english speaking families to send their children to French only schools. They enact laws that make English signs illegal in public.
They cry discrimination while discriminating against all things not French.
The entire concept of "Pure Wool" Quebecois makes my father want to puke.
As he said to me many times whist listening to the great Quebecer Treasonous Azzhat Lucien "One Legger" Bouchard rattle on about the "Pure French " culture and how being their own country was their devine destiny. "That piece of chit should be tried for treason and shot immediately". "Pure French? is he kidding. Who does he think the the original French settlers and explorers were screwing? Did they bring dainty French ladies with them from Europe? No, they screwed Natives, wild life or each other!" "Pure as the driven chit at the bottom of the pile outside the barn " he would say
The fact that as a result of having Prime Minister after Prime Minister from Quebec, we now have a province consisting of 20% of the populace holding the other 80% of the country hostage and always crying about the wrongs done to them is a national disgrace.
The fact that the Bloc Quebecois exists is a disgrace. The fact they are allowed to hold seats in OUR FEDERAL PARLIMENT is a disgrace.
The fact that they are relected every time we have an election shows the total disdain the majority of Quebecers have for the rest of OUR great country.
The only reason "they" voted to stay in Canada was because without "US", they would be financially ruined within one year. Thats right, the Great Canadian Taxpayer TEET would run dry. No more money for the squeaky wheel separatists.
No sir, I have NO patience for Les Separitistes, none. I would much perfer to see them lined up and shot as the treasonous bastards that they truely are. Even those that I call members of my own family that have chosen to join their ranks.
Oh boy, now here is a topic where I am indisputably qualified to comment with pure and unadulterated hatred. While not directed at any particular individual but rather an entire "community", hatred is exactly what I harbour. That community is not the french speaking inhabitant of Quebec but rather the arrogant, self important, hypicritical hard core separatist legions.
My sir name is Rodrigue. To this day I have direct blood relatives all over north america. From the east coast to the west coast and from the far north of Canada to the Bayou country of Louisianna but the majority are in Quebec, Vermont and New Hampshire. We have spread far and wide
My father's family emmigrated from Portugal in the 1400's to France and then via the not yet USA to "New France" which became Quebec in 1642 so yes, we do have a little experience with the Quebecois.
My dad and uncle and one of four aunts left La Belle Province in 1949 to make a better life for themselves. They did not speak one word of English when they arrived in Toronto. Why? because speaking English in school was against the rules and grounds for severe corporal punishment at the hands of the Priests and Nuns who ran the schools.
Myself and my sibblings and cousins are the first generation on non primarily French speakers in our immediate family. Matter of fact, outside of ordering a beer and some poutine, I am pretty much French illiterate.
Quebec has to be one of if not THE most racist, bigotted and hypocritcal places on the planet earth. They scream out for respect all the while disrespecting those who call them countrymen. They enact laws FORCING english speaking families to send their children to French only schools. They enact laws that make English signs illegal in public.
They cry discrimination while discriminating against all things not French.
The entire concept of "Pure Wool" Quebecois makes my father want to puke.
As he said to me many times whist listening to the great Quebecer Treasonous Azzhat Lucien "One Legger" Bouchard rattle on about the "Pure French " culture and how being their own country was their devine destiny. "That piece of chit should be tried for treason and shot immediately". "Pure French? is he kidding. Who does he think the the original French settlers and explorers were screwing? Did they bring dainty French ladies with them from Europe? No, they screwed Natives, wild life or each other!" "Pure as the driven chit at the bottom of the pile outside the barn " he would say
The fact that as a result of having Prime Minister after Prime Minister from Quebec, we now have a province consisting of 20% of the populace holding the other 80% of the country hostage and always crying about the wrongs done to them is a national disgrace.
The fact that the Bloc Quebecois exists is a disgrace. The fact they are allowed to hold seats in OUR FEDERAL PARLIMENT is a disgrace.
The fact that they are relected every time we have an election shows the total disdain the majority of Quebecers have for the rest of OUR great country.
The only reason "they" voted to stay in Canada was because without "US", they would be financially ruined within one year. Thats right, the Great Canadian Taxpayer TEET would run dry. No more money for the squeaky wheel separatists.
No sir, I have NO patience for Les Separitistes, none. I would much perfer to see them lined up and shot as the treasonous bastards that they truely are. Even those that I call members of my own family that have chosen to join their ranks.
pullmytrigger
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The point is (to me) is that Canada is a vast geographical country......by road its 4500 miles coast to coast.....if you drove 500mi a day it would take 9 days to get across it..... it takes 3 days to cross Ontario alone.......what happens is there is huge regional differences.....a fisherman in Nova Scotia doesn't have alot in common with a wheat farmer in Saskatchewan just like I don't have a lot in common with somebody in the Arctic......its a huge country WE ALL have our differences GET OVER IT!!!!.....oh but not Quebec......they are a "distinct " society and thus want to separate.....what next?...the Bloc Manitoba?......the Bloc British Columbia?......nice country....gimmie a break
And how can Canada be taken seriously at an international level when we have a recognised Political Party whose sole purpose is to break the country up....where else in the WORLD do you have that?????......Imagine if you were a world leader on the other side of the table from Canada at some Summit talking among yourselves......"Oh yeah Canada.....politically they have the Conservative Party the Liberal Party and the break up the country party......the what?......the break up the country party....seriously?......yep......and they allow that???.....yes.....are those guys for effing real? wtf are they doing???.....I know, Ive never heard of that either its really wierd, I can't take anything they say seriously......."
And how can Canada be taken seriously at an international level when we have a recognised Political Party whose sole purpose is to break the country up....where else in the WORLD do you have that?????......Imagine if you were a world leader on the other side of the table from Canada at some Summit talking among yourselves......"Oh yeah Canada.....politically they have the Conservative Party the Liberal Party and the break up the country party......the what?......the break up the country party....seriously?......yep......and they allow that???.....yes.....are those guys for effing real? wtf are they doing???.....I know, Ive never heard of that either its really wierd, I can't take anything they say seriously......."
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catastrophe
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Every one of them should be shot DEAD.
ar15meister
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What alot of people forget is exactly what Sean said.
Most Canadians couldnt give a rats ass if Quebec ever separated. They do however care about the fact that the plan was to separate without taking their portion of the national debt.
If they did that they would have been the most highly taxed people on the face of the earth as opposed to the way things are now where Quebec gets a seriously disporportionate amount of the country's wealth and has a favourable amount of seats in the house of commons which again is not based on logic but instead is based on politics.
I think Alec calling Quebec an embarassment is more calling the entire political situation an 'embarassment' as opposed to saying that he is embarassed by the people there (although some of them are involved politically).
Being from Toronto I hear alot of jabs at Ontario from my buddies and clients out in the West. Toronto in particular has a reputaion of being a town of elitist liberal/socialist V8 hating freedom hating gun grabbers who could care less about the rest of Canada. I would compare it to the stereotypical view of New York City in the USA for you American guys.
There is truth there but it doesnt mean that a guy like me who owns 4 V8 vehicles as well as enough guns to make your everyday liberal wet his/her panties cant live there and be a proud Torontonian because this is where I grew up and it is my home.
Just because Quebec is an issue politcally and the 'issue' angers taxpayers doesnt mean it isnt a wonderful place with a large majority of good hardworking people.
Most Canadians couldnt give a rats ass if Quebec ever separated. They do however care about the fact that the plan was to separate without taking their portion of the national debt.
If they did that they would have been the most highly taxed people on the face of the earth as opposed to the way things are now where Quebec gets a seriously disporportionate amount of the country's wealth and has a favourable amount of seats in the house of commons which again is not based on logic but instead is based on politics.
I think Alec calling Quebec an embarassment is more calling the entire political situation an 'embarassment' as opposed to saying that he is embarassed by the people there (although some of them are involved politically).
Being from Toronto I hear alot of jabs at Ontario from my buddies and clients out in the West. Toronto in particular has a reputaion of being a town of elitist liberal/socialist V8 hating freedom hating gun grabbers who could care less about the rest of Canada. I would compare it to the stereotypical view of New York City in the USA for you American guys.
There is truth there but it doesnt mean that a guy like me who owns 4 V8 vehicles as well as enough guns to make your everyday liberal wet his/her panties cant live there and be a proud Torontonian because this is where I grew up and it is my home.
Just because Quebec is an issue politcally and the 'issue' angers taxpayers doesnt mean it isnt a wonderful place with a large majority of good hardworking people.
ar15meister
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HaxbySpeed
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As much as Toronto or any other place gets jabbed at they will never incur the type of universal anger felt by the rest of the country towards Quebec. Quebec has done a wonderful job of turning an entire country against themselves by forcing their one sided narrowmindedness on the masses. I personally love not being able to purchase a large assortment of products because it is illegal to sell anything here without a french lable, and being forced to take 8 or 9 years of french in school, well not even really french, it's their own special version. Or how 'bout being forced to spend additional ten's of millions of dollars to make the olympics bilingual because we have two national languages. I could go on and on but it makes me F'n crazy!!
phuckin phucks!
I gotta have a drink now..
phuckin phucks!
I gotta have a drink now..
Wrinkleface
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I'm have'n 1 w/ ya Buddy!!!!!:seeya:
HaxbySpeed
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It's good to know I can always count on you! :cheers2:
Wrinkleface
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right on Brotha!!:cheers2:
fund razor
Founding Member
Dominic is a 20 year old pharmacy student who joined here before he knew that Quebecois need not apply to SOS. He knows little of the politics of Quebec, other than an understanding of how it relates to the pharmacy business. He is not politically active, not a separatist. He won't be posting here again because he didn't mean to cause any trouble and doesn't feel informed enough to take part in this lively debate. He did not intend to represent Quebec in a political debate. He never posted again on this thread. We can't blame him for the slightest thing, not even for Celine Dion.
In fact, he is not nearly the "separatist" that some of our members are.
He came here to interact with us and be a member of our community.
Imagine being 20 and wading into this forum to be told that you are hated.
His crime? Posting his location in his profile.
I propose that the debate about how much Quebec sucks take place without any more references to this young man. Thanks for your consideration, everyone.
Airpacker
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John, like I said, its not Quebec nor the Quebecois that suck, its a large portion of their population
If it was just a small minority, the federal Bloc Quebecois, the party who's only goal is to break up confederation, would not hold almost every Quebec representative seat in the federal house of commons.
Les separatists are traders to MY country and should be treated as such, not molly coddled and rewarded financially for attempting to break up MY counry.
Maybe the fact that Dominic has, as you state no real understanding of Quebec politics is a part of the problem.
How can you live there for 20 yrs and NOT know whats going on in the only political hotbed in Canada? How can you spend your entire life in the education system and know little or nothing of the political history of your home?
Maybe Dominic should do a little research and develope some understanding of Quebec's political history within Canada why others view Quebec the way we do.
Maybe he should research why Quebec REFUSED to sign the Canadian Constitution.
Maybe he could research Rene Levesque, Lucien Bouchard and Jaques Parizeau, Jean Duceppe and his son Gilles Duceppe.
Even their provincial house of gouvernment is called "The NATIONAL assembly of Quebec".!!!
Maybe you could forward this link to him to get him started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Quebec
Obvously, you have been in contact with him off the board. Please re assure him that its nothing personal UNLESS he supports the traders. Then it definately is.
If it was just a small minority, the federal Bloc Quebecois, the party who's only goal is to break up confederation, would not hold almost every Quebec representative seat in the federal house of commons.
Les separatists are traders to MY country and should be treated as such, not molly coddled and rewarded financially for attempting to break up MY counry.
Maybe the fact that Dominic has, as you state no real understanding of Quebec politics is a part of the problem.
How can you live there for 20 yrs and NOT know whats going on in the only political hotbed in Canada? How can you spend your entire life in the education system and know little or nothing of the political history of your home?
Maybe Dominic should do a little research and develope some understanding of Quebec's political history within Canada why others view Quebec the way we do.
Maybe he should research why Quebec REFUSED to sign the Canadian Constitution.
Maybe he could research Rene Levesque, Lucien Bouchard and Jaques Parizeau, Jean Duceppe and his son Gilles Duceppe.
Even their provincial house of gouvernment is called "The NATIONAL assembly of Quebec".!!!
Maybe you could forward this link to him to get him started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Quebec
Obvously, you have been in contact with him off the board. Please re assure him that its nothing personal UNLESS he supports the traders. Then it definately is.
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