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apache 3a vs 5
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MILD THUNDER
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Wouldnt running spacers on the V's kinda defeat the purpose of running V's over 3A's??
MikeyFIN
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Yep---can´t argue with that.
In the US allabout acceleration.
Learn the ropes with the boat first, get a feel for it and after that make changes one at a time and keep a record of every test.
It´s a slow progress but better that way so you do not end up with a 93mph boat going 78 soon and forgot the notes and changes made while going downhill.
And that goes for everything from camshaft timing to ignition timing and the drives.
You got the speed already dialed in close enough do not mess with it too much and jump with your both feet in.
In the US allabout acceleration.
Learn the ropes with the boat first, get a feel for it and after that make changes one at a time and keep a record of every test.
It´s a slow progress but better that way so you do not end up with a 93mph boat going 78 soon and forgot the notes and changes made while going downhill.
And that goes for everything from camshaft timing to ignition timing and the drives.
You got the speed already dialed in close enough do not mess with it too much and jump with your both feet in.
Depends on present X dimension. My guess is the transom was cut many years ago to an X that was friendly to the prop selection of the day. So a higher drive height might help. The 5 has the setback box which compensates some for it's shorter height, but not all. My guess is that with the 5's in the 3 holes you're still going to be a bit high. But you can shim down. You can't shim up. With the 5's you'll have the latitude to tune exactly into the sweet spot of speed vs. loss of handling from being too high. With that and a modern set of CNC props, I'd guess there's some substantial gains to be had.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I currently have 3A's on the Black Thunder, so I am also very interested in this question.
My thought is that 5's give you a lot more latitude, (similar to 6's), with spacers etc and dialing the boat in would be a lot more exact. With 3's or 3A's you're stuck.....
My thought is that 5's give you a lot more latitude, (similar to 6's), with spacers etc and dialing the boat in would be a lot more exact. With 3's or 3A's you're stuck.....
Magnum Mark
New member
remember this boat weighs maybe 6500 lbs.[no fuel].built to run with 1000 kilo[2200lbs] counterweight in the front....carry on..
p.s..too bad lake X is closed..being that you have merc power the boat would be welcomed.......i was....cya..
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Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I think it's time for the Serious Team to do some Serious inquiries around the boating world.....
Birdog
Charter Member
All of the 90mph Top Guns had Vs {Staggered boats}.....Diff boat, same era...There must have been a reason
I would check with Tres Martin also....He knows his way around setting up Vs
I bet you will need boxes...
A SSM V is a #4 with big shafts on boxes.
There's nothing to lose on this one. The straight-bottom 41 likes the extension box- note the White Lightning 41. And being able to adjust X while experimenting with props? The absolute worst thing that could happen is you end up in the same place you started. Which is unlikely.
There's nothing to lose on this one. The straight-bottom 41 likes the extension box- note the White Lightning 41. And being able to adjust X while experimenting with props? The absolute worst thing that could happen is you end up in the same place you started. Which is unlikely.
DAREDEVIL
Banned
WRONG !!!!!!!! A #4 is a short version of the #3 and u can get them with a big Prop shaft !!!!!!
A #5 is a thing for its own !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trusst me on this Chris.
MikeyFIN
Competitor
Hey guys, i appreciate everyones input here. As this is a new boat to me, I am not new to offshore powerboats. I grew up on powerboats on the jersey shore and followed apba and npba back in the day. I have driven all types of incredible boats from 27 magnum sports, 12 meter fountains, 40' skaters (141mph) 39' Mti (130mph). I try to be a perfectionist. I want to set this boat up perfectly, whatever perfect is. It will be driven as well as a trailer queen. No beat up, unmaintained, grease bucket here, haha
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