Chris, fantasy deals, where? and with who?, look I'm not trying to cause a problem here, what I posted is factual, If anyone is interested they can email me, I've been working on this deal a while, Its a 90 cut down 47' with twin 1000's and dry sump 6's, Its not a fire sale. It is well priced and wanted to let the members know it might be available if they were looking, Chris I got accussed of alot of stuff on oso I did'nt do, everyone jumped on me about my 40 Skater also, but they all apologized when everything I said was factual, I have bought and sold alot of boats in the past few years, all my buyers are extremely happy and were given facts, my last Nortech 50v went to Texas to a very successful businessman, he sent me the money before he even saw the boat, His driver said the boat looked better than he was even told, I made the driver wait until we checked everything, I had girls washing and waxing it before I let him take it. this is the way I do business. My current work updating and making a 40 Skater look brand new, I'm making everything perfect on it, I'm going to spend over 100k before I put it up for sale, The Apache will be gone thru 100% before It's sold, I'm going to put new props on it and a few engine tweaks so it runs 100mph. I appreciate your work on this site and have been helpful and factual with everything I've posted here, Stecz let me know openly from the start what my terms were, I have honored what he asked me, guess I just will refrain from trying to add knowledge and opportunity to the members, 5 of the boats I've sold are still at LOTO and the owners are all my friends. This same mentallity goes into my commercial and residential projects, You don't build homes for 4 of the top executives of Anheiser Busch , including August himself if you don't build quality , and treat your customers with honesty and respect, I'll put my reputation up against anyones, I have worked my azz off in my own businesses for over 20 years now, If anyone buys something from me that is not as I say, you will get your money back, period. You guys should know there is 3 sides to every rumour, If you have questions of me feel free to email me or call me anytime at 636 236-4141, I'll get good pics when me and Anthony go out to the east coast after the first to get it.If it does'nt sell before we get it back I'm going to have it repainted the hok orion silver just like the 40 Skater. wanted to clear the air, Jim Darr Midwest Performance Marine