Headlines
Agent: 2 NFL payers among missing FL boaters
- Thread starter Tommy Gun
- Start date
Agreed. It's not usually so cut and dry, but in this instance, I can't think of a single redeeming reason why one would decide to go offshore in that particular boat this particular weekend.
Last edited:
That was not directed at you I was more talking in general. When you are closely involved in a tragedy such that this is looking like it is, you read what people write about you and your friends. It hurts and angers you. Later in life you read these things and you have a very different view on what may have happened or have been going through their minds. They could have gone out 1/2 mile and throught better about it and turned around and got swampped when turning around. Rememeber it does not matter how deep the water is if it is over your head then you can drown.
Fever Mike
Charter Member
I am hoping these guys can be found. This is sad!
clayinaustin
Charter Member
Salt water... meaning, you can lost sight of land. There is no way I would go in salt water on a 21-foot boat with one engine.
If they wanted to go fishing, they should have hired a fishing boat. Let a pro drive.
I am sad for their families, but stupid + water will get you dead!
LaughingCat
New member
Good point Audio. I already considered the idea that with that low of freeboard, trying to turn int hose waves will easily consume the boat. They likely could be closer to shore and the searchers are working farther offshore.
LaughingCat
New member
We were actually riding from John's Pass to Indian rocks via car Saturday evening and saw the police vehicles at Seminole ramp. I told wife that is not a good sign, but didn't realize that is where the guys put in.
Loan Ranger
Charter Member
If they left at 6:30 Saturday morning, the winds were not bad. They started blowing around 10 and continued to get stronger throught the day. I left my house in Palm Harbor around noon and ran up to Hooters in New Port Richey. Winds were out of the South around 15 with a descent chop and white caps. Coming home around 3:30 it was blowing 25 to 30 with a 1-3 chop and at the south end of Anclote an area of 4' swells. It was certainly not a day to be far offshore in a 21' boat.
fund razor
Founding Member
Salt water... meaning, you can lost sight of land. There is no way I would go in salt water on a 21-foot boat with one engine.
If they wanted to go fishing, they should have hired a fishing boat. Let a pro drive.
I am sad for their families, but stupid + water will get you dead!
All salt water may be able to get big... but not all big water is salty. You can lose sight of land (and be screwed too) in all of the great lakes.
Maybe you meant in "offshore conditions."
You have been to the great lakes, right Clay?
BlackJack58
New member
You've seen the pictures he posts. Something tells me he doesn't feel a pressing need to look elsewhere for diversion... :sifone:
Scarab KV
New member
Mar 2, 12:58 PM (ET)
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - The Coast Guard says it has found a person clinging to an overturned boat off Florida's Gulf Coast but did not confirm whether it is the one missing with two NFL players aboard.
Corey Smith, a free-agent defensive end who played for the Detroit Lions last season, and Marquis Cooper, an Oakland Raiders linebacker, are two of the four people aboard the boat that didn't return from a fishing trip Saturday.
Petty Officer Sondra-Kay Kneen says searchers located an overturned boat Monday but provided no further details.
The men were reported missing Sunday. The Coast Guard has searched about 16,000 square miles of ocean for the 21-foot boat.
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - The Coast Guard says it has found a person clinging to an overturned boat off Florida's Gulf Coast but did not confirm whether it is the one missing with two NFL players aboard.
Corey Smith, a free-agent defensive end who played for the Detroit Lions last season, and Marquis Cooper, an Oakland Raiders linebacker, are two of the four people aboard the boat that didn't return from a fishing trip Saturday.
Petty Officer Sondra-Kay Kneen says searchers located an overturned boat Monday but provided no further details.
The men were reported missing Sunday. The Coast Guard has searched about 16,000 square miles of ocean for the 21-foot boat.
BlackJack58
New member
Live reports from WTSP Here: http://tinyurl.com/bhzyd6
Nick Schuyler was found with the boat. Said all four men had PFD's on; Don't know why they all weren't all hanging onto boat, which had flipped in heavy seas...
Nick Schuyler was found with the boat. Said all four men had PFD's on; Don't know why they all weren't all hanging onto boat, which had flipped in heavy seas...
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - The Coast Guard found a person clinging to an overturned boat off Florida's Gulf Coast on Monday, but could not immediately confirm whether it is the same boat with two NFL players aboard that went missing over the weekend.
Corey Smith, a free-agent defensive end who played for the Detroit Lions last season, and Marquis Cooper, an Oakland Raiders linebacker, as well as former University of South Florida players Will Bleakley and Nick Schuyler left on a fishing trip early Saturday. Weather conditions worsened through the day and the men did not return as expected in the evening.
The men were reported missing Sunday, and the Coast Guard had searched about 16,000 square miles of ocean for the 21-foot Everglades-manufactured boat by Monday morning.
Everglades boats are built with compressed foam encased in Fiberglas, which makes them difficult or impossible to sink.
Petty Officer Sondra-Kay Kneen confirmed searchers located a boat. No further details were available.
Waves had subsided to 6 to 8 feet, still enough for a small craft advisory, but considerably smaller than the 15-foot waves Sunday, National Weather Service meteorologist Todd Barron said.
Family members believed the men had lifejackets and flares on board. The Coast Guard had not received a distress signal from the men.
Cooper owns the boat, and he and Smith, who were teammates with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004, have been on fishing trips before, according to Ron Del Duca, Smith's agent.
Coast Guard Capt. Timothy M. Close said at least one of the men was an experienced boater, and relatives provided the Coast Guard with GPS coordinates from previous fishing expeditions.
The 29-year-old Smith of Richmond, Va., is 6-foot-2, 250 pounds and had 30 tackles, including three sacks, and an interception in 12 games last season for the winless Lions.
Cooper, 26, who is 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, has spent five seasons with five different teams, appearing in 26 games with the Buccaneers in 2004 and 2005, but playing sparingly since. He grew up in Gilbert, Ariz., and his father Bruce is a prominent sportscaster for KPNX-TV in Phoenix.
Corey Smith, a free-agent defensive end who played for the Detroit Lions last season, and Marquis Cooper, an Oakland Raiders linebacker, as well as former University of South Florida players Will Bleakley and Nick Schuyler left on a fishing trip early Saturday. Weather conditions worsened through the day and the men did not return as expected in the evening.
The men were reported missing Sunday, and the Coast Guard had searched about 16,000 square miles of ocean for the 21-foot Everglades-manufactured boat by Monday morning.
Everglades boats are built with compressed foam encased in Fiberglas, which makes them difficult or impossible to sink.
Petty Officer Sondra-Kay Kneen confirmed searchers located a boat. No further details were available.
Waves had subsided to 6 to 8 feet, still enough for a small craft advisory, but considerably smaller than the 15-foot waves Sunday, National Weather Service meteorologist Todd Barron said.
Family members believed the men had lifejackets and flares on board. The Coast Guard had not received a distress signal from the men.
Cooper owns the boat, and he and Smith, who were teammates with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004, have been on fishing trips before, according to Ron Del Duca, Smith's agent.
Coast Guard Capt. Timothy M. Close said at least one of the men was an experienced boater, and relatives provided the Coast Guard with GPS coordinates from previous fishing expeditions.
The 29-year-old Smith of Richmond, Va., is 6-foot-2, 250 pounds and had 30 tackles, including three sacks, and an interception in 12 games last season for the winless Lions.
Cooper, 26, who is 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, has spent five seasons with five different teams, appearing in 26 games with the Buccaneers in 2004 and 2005, but playing sparingly since. He grew up in Gilbert, Ariz., and his father Bruce is a prominent sportscaster for KPNX-TV in Phoenix.
clayinaustin
Charter Member
Similar threads
