68 years ago today

[cuda]

Brief history lesson... while we all know about pearl harbor, few understand what led up to it. Through out history Japan and China have not gotten along very well. Prior to Pearl Harbor, Japan was once again at war with China. Japan being a country of little natural resources imported most of it's oil (75%)and other natural resources from the United States. The US had interest in China so political pressure and an embargo
on oil and other resources were placed on Japan by the U.S. Also 'quasi covert' military action was taken against Japan by the U.S. in the form of the Flying Tigers etc.. At this time Japan was so entrenched with the war in China, it felt that its very survival as a nation was threatened. Japan, though it underestimated the American resolve, still did not believe it could win a war with the U.S., but choose to attack Pearl Harbor under the reasoning that by decimating the American fleet, it would be able to acquire the resources to win its war with China. Pearl Harbor was not a result of Japanese hatred for the US or an attempt to conquer the US, it was merely a last ditch effort to obtain the resources necessary to win the war with China and maintain their existence.

So if any of you were wondering "What the hell were they thinking" now you know.... Japan attacked the US, but it was not without provocation.

Yep, it was about oil. The Japs bombed the US with the understanding that the Nazi's would declare war on America. It was lack of oil that was the downfall of the Wermacht in Europe.

 

[clayinaustin]

If you want to see how they really are, read about the Rape of Nanking.

The Nanking Massacre or Nanjing Massacre, also known as the Rape of Nanking, refers to a six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanjing (Nanking), former capital of the Republic of China, on December 9, 1937.

That shows how they WERE in 1937, not how they ARE today.

200 years ago American Calvary killed thousands of native Americans. White land owners had black slaves. Is that how we are today?

Let it go, Cuda. Let it go...

 

[phragle]

Clay, good point...if you really want to understand the faliure of immigration control, ask a native american indian......

 

[cuda]

The Nanking Massacre or Nanjing Massacre, also known as the Rape of Nanking, refers to a six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanjing (Nanking), former capital of the Republic of China, on December 9, 1937.

That shows how they WERE in 1937, not how they ARE today.

200 years ago American Calvary killed thousands of native Americans. White land owners had black slaves. Is that how we are today?

Let it go, Cuda. Let it go...

Give me another 150 years, and maybe I won't give a damn. Do me a favor and hold your all knowing breath.

 

[getchasum111]

Was Pearl Harbor day.
Keep that in mind when you buy a Toyota.

How many Toyota plants here in the USA...How many people do they and their parts suppliers keep employed....I know it was a bad day and we should never forget....but Toyota pays me to do a job that I that I in turn put back into my community buying groceries and keeping my kids clothed in in school....so you want people to not buy cars from me and put me and my family out in the cold?....hum...

 

[phragle]

Give me another 150 years, and maybe I won't give a damn. Do me a favor and hold your all knowing breath.

Cuda, then you might as well blame yourself, for it was the US that rebuilt a crumbled Japan after the war. Had it not been for US support and tax dollars, japan would not be where it is today..

 

[Sea-Dated]

:USA::USA::USA::USA:

If you haven't been, everyone should go to the Memorial once in their lives....

 

[clayinaustin]

Give me another 150 years, and maybe I won't give a damn. Do me a favor and hold your all knowing breath.

In my best Yoda voice... Let go of your hate, for to the dark side that path leads.

 

[cuda]

In my best Yoda voice... Let go of your hate, for to the dark side that path leads.

In my best Rhett Butler voice, Frankly dear, I don't give a damn.

 

[THEJOKER]

In my best Rhett Butler voice, Frankly dear, I don't give a damn.

Classic Cuda! haha...Freedom of Speech at it's finest!

 

[Expensive Date]

Maybe we should all just pause and show our respect for the fallen.

 

[cigdaze]

Maybe we should all just pause and show our respect for the fallen.

I completely agree.

Instead of arguing with one another and rehashing the anger and resentment of a bygone ere, let us rather stand together in remembrance for all those who have given the ultimate sacrifice to give us what we have today. :USA:

 

[MacGyver]

:USA::USA::USA::USA:

If you haven't been, everyone should go to the Memorial once in their lives....

 

[cuda]

I completely agree.

Instead of arguing with one another and rehashing the anger and resentment of a bygone ere, let us rather stand together in remembrance for all those who have given the ultimate sacrifice to give us what we have today. :USA:

That's all I wanted to do until I was given a morality lesson in post 13 that I didn't need, or ask for.

 

[MacGyver]

This thread is to honor the over 2,400 American lives lost that day. Lets keep all comments civil, please.