Prices in Classifieds?

[Buoy]

If you are interested call, look at it from their perspective. they put a starting price and the first thing you get is the know it alls on here saying it is too expensive. then the threads start about it and hearsay and next thing you know the forum has done damage to a boat and and an advertiser.pick up the phone and call, I'm quite sure you will here it is being offeered at $######, if you would like to make an offer please do so.
for full time marines like pier 57 and LCM as well as shogren and some others it wouldn't bother me one bit to not see a price, because if I'm interested, I will call.

I disagree.
We have people on the board that all live within different means.
The seller has a price in mind that they want. They should at least post a starting price for negotiation.
The buyer has a price that he/she is willing to spend. Lets at least start in a common area of the spectrum.
That will at least let me know if it's something within reason for my budget.
I understand the dealer point of view, but even if they post an MSRP, it establishes a starting point.
Just my opinion.

 

[baywatch]

I disagree.
We have people on the board that all live within different means.
The seller has a price in mind that they want. They should at least post a starting price for negotiation.
The buyer has a price that he/she is willing to spend. Lets at least start in a common area of the spectrum.
That will at least let me know if it's something within reason for my budget.
I understand the dealer point of view, but even if they post an MSRP, it establishes a starting point.
Just my opinion.

I agree with Buoy. When I was last boat shopping I got so fed up with talking to dealers that didn't post starting prices. Often times I called and got the starting price and ended the conversation there simply because the gap between what I was willing to pay and where they were starting was way to large.

 

[jhenrie]

On a used boat , The rule is great. There is a big difference between a cream puff price and a clapped out barges' price. Gotta see a price there. New is a different story. Mfgrs have a suggested list price. Thats a great starting point. You know you can find an aggressive dealer in this market that will discount a boat in his inventory . Anyway , for new boat sales I'm looking for a name , I know If I want to check out a new sunsation , I'm calling Mahopac Marine and finding someone to work with!!!

 

[fund razor]

I can see Rob's point as far as if it is a boat that you are currently looking for... you will probably call.

But it has been proven over and over again in testing retail psychology that if an item is not priced... like 9 out of 10 people set it down and walk away.

 

[Chris]

The first question asked is always "How much?" There's really no reason not to have it there in advance. The second question is always "Do you have pictures?".

I understand that dealers have published-pricing issues, but SWAP is for individuals so that's not an issue.

Lastly, published asking prices serve to educate all of us on where the market is at.

 

[TEAMBAJA]

Chris, I was going to PM you with a question about EBAY since alot of us sell on there.

My question is, are you ok with listing a link to a NO RESERVE auction? You wouldnt really be able to list a price. Ive done that in the past with pictures. Any thoughts? I think its totally fair since everyone has an equal chance to bid.

 

[Chris]

Chris, I was going to PM you with a question about EBAY since alot of us sell on there.

My question is, are you ok with listing a link to a NO RESERVE auction? You wouldnt really be able to list a price. Ive done that in the past with pictures. Any thoughts? I think its totally fair since everyone has an equal chance to bid.

Are you talking about putting an item on Ebay and linking it here? I have zero problem with that. The object of the site is to help everyone- if you sell your stuff and someone here wants it and buys it, everyone wins.

 

[Steve Miklos]

Prices

I was speaking of used boats. On the new boats you do your research and buy where you can I have purchased the top brands of V hulls and always been able to buy from the Factory with much effort and some racing involved.

I recently called a big dealer on a used catamaran got a price the pictures had engines the add had engines it turns out the price was without engines. I only found out when asking for the hours on them.

I am the type that never offers a price without being ready to pay if accepted. This makes dealing with dealers with no starting points or ones that resemble phone number hardly worth the effort.
Steve

 

[RumRunner]

Would everyone be interested in seeing an MSRP price?
Do you think that would still peak your interest or steer you away due to the higher price than what you could buy for?



JMO

I would think a little disclaimer stating this is MSRP, please call for current discounted pricing (or something to that affect) would be the way to go.

 

[TEAMBAJA]

Are you talking about putting an item on Ebay and linking it here? I have zero problem with that. The object of the site is to help everyone- if you sell your stuff and someone here wants it and buys it, everyone wins.

Yes, thanks! Thats what I was hoping to hear!

 

[Strip Poker 388]

This issue was a big point of discussion that we made when organizing the board; It's one of my biggest pet peeves when I see an ad with no price...I too usually ignore the ones without an asking price.

I call it, pre qualifying the costumer, they want to know about you first before they give ya a price

 

[cosmic12]

I call it, pre qualifying the costumer, they want to know about you first before they give ya a price

Ya thats the truth, they also want to know if you have a trade so they can jack the price to steal your boat and bang you atleast retail. All the while smileing and telling you theres is gold and yours is nothing but led and they really don't want it unless they can steal it. Put a price in the ad or don't advertise it.:seeya:

 

[MahopacMarine]

On a used boat , The rule is great. There is a big difference between a cream puff price and a clapped out barges' price. Gotta see a price there. New is a different story. Mfgrs have a suggested list price. Thats a great starting point. You know you can find an aggressive dealer in this market that will discount a boat in his inventory . Anyway , for new boat sales I'm looking for a name , I know If I want to check out a new sunsation , I'm calling Mahopac Marine and finding someone to work with!!!

Thanks J! I have your new one in stock :biggrinjester:

 

[MahopacMarine]

I would think a little disclaimer stating this is MSRP, please call for current discounted pricing (or something to that affect) would be the way to go.

I would try to put the MSRP next to the pricing and then have to put the rest of the disclaimer in the body of the ad.

I will give it a shot and see how the response is.

 

[nortech4play]

But it has been proven over and over again in testing retail psychology that if an item is not priced... like 9 out of 10 people set it down and walk away.

I'm one of the 9 who will walk away and not even inquire about something that doesn't have a price on it...

I'd rather discuss prices with a seller that at least has something posted, it gives you a starting point to work from, even if its more than I'm willing to go...

Just like in all of the big boating magazines when it doesn't list a price or say "Call for Price" I just move on to the next.

Some people are shoppers and others are buyers, in my mind a buyer wants to know up front what somethings priced at, a shopper doesn't care because he's just looking around...

I don't have the time to chit chat with someone talking about something that's either so far out of my range or that I have no intention of buying...

There was a little old lady in our town who had a furniture store and she used ride her three wheeled cart up to you when you where looking at something and the first thing she would ask is are "you buying" or "looking"? If you said looking she would drive away if you said buying she would give you her best price even at the detriment to her salespeople.... BTW this just happens to be "Mrs B" from the Nebraska Furniture Mart...a fairly successful enterprise the a certain local guy Warren Buffet thought he should buy for his Berkshire Hathaway Holdings, ever here of it...

just my $.02

 

[Strip Poker 388]

Ya thats the truth, they also want to know if you have a trade so they can jack the price to steal your boat and bang you atleast retail. All the while smileing and telling you theres is gold and yours is nothing but led and they really don't want it unless they can steal it. Put a price in the ad or don't advertise it.:seeya:

asking what ya had before,

On the opposite end a buyer says I got to sell mine first,I heard that beforeBut ya never know

 

[Offshoredrillin]

Ya thats the truth, they also want to know if you have a trade so they can jack the price to steal your boat and bang you atleast retail. All the while smileing and telling you theres is gold and yours is nothing but led and they really don't want it unless they can steal it. Put a price in the ad or don't advertise it.:seeya:

oh i see now, dealers should buy at retail and sell at wholesale? don't you go to work every day to make money and as much as you can? taking trades is usually done as a convenience to help the potential buyer, that's why on brokerage boats you will see "no trades" someone said listing a MSRP after the price, that makes sense. But anyone that goes to buy a boat and looks as the seller as a thief from the get go is going to have a miserable experience and probably never be satisfied with the result. Make the best deal possible, it's not personal, it's business.

 

[cosmic12]

oh i see now, dealers should buy at retail and sell at wholesale? don't you go to work every day to make money and as much as you can? taking trades is usually done as a convenience to help the potential buyer, that's why on brokerage boats you will see "no trades" someone said listing a MSRP after the price, that makes sense. But anyone that goes to buy a boat and looks as the seller as a thief from the get go is going to have a miserable experience and probably never be satisfied with the result. Make the best deal possible, it's not personal, it's business.

I understand profit and its not a dirty word. I understand over head and costs ect ect. I have just had to many deals go bad over the value of a trade. And that is why I will never ever buy a new boat or buy one from a dealer. Working from retail on a trade is a must but offering only 5 to 10% off that retail for the trade is just robbery (deppending on what it is) actually this is a silly conversation because prices are so out whack and the boat bis is not the happest place to be anyway,I don't want to make anyone feel worse than they already do. I have just seen to many F'ed things happen and whats this got to with price's in adds? I just want to see a price and work from it at the get go, save's alot of B.S. on both parts.

 

[Offshoredrillin]

I understand profit and its not a dirty word. I understand over head and costs ect ect. I have just had to many deals go bad over the value of a trade. And that is why I will never ever buy a new boat or buy one from a dealer. Working from retail on a trade is a must but offering only 5 to 10% off that retail for the trade is just robbery (deppending on what it is) actually this is a silly conversation because prices are so out whack and the boat bis is not the happest place to be anyway,I don't want to make anyone feel worse than they already do. I have just seen to many F'ed things happen and whats this got to with price's in adds? I just want to see a price and work from it at the get go, save's alot of B.S. on both parts.

I understand, but my point is, you know what you want/need for your trade. if they can make it that's fine, if not that's fine too. Not all business is good business. I tell potential customers at least 3 times a day that are price shopping me, "I would love to have your business, however the prices that we have discussed are what I need in order to make sure I continue to be able to offer the warranty and service that I do" Usually they will think about it and come back. When buying or selling anything keep emotion out of it until after the deal is done. when I bought the Tiger from Victor, by both him and I being up front and honest with dollars, I made a friend as well.

 

[cosmic12]

Well like I said a price at the start and work from it not a game from the dealer to get your info before the selling price is given. I know what maket value is on anything I have before I shop and what the price's on new or used are also, just don't try to play me as a fool and I will work with anyone.