MOBILEMERCMAN
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When I raced Bravo's the drives were disassembled and inspected every race.
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Brovo X drive,needs beefing up
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MOBILEMERCMAN
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The IMCO raced all year last season without a problem or a teardown.
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I know your in the IMCO boat, but the arneson is way better and can handle way more abuse ,,no matter what size boat.
If Rik sets it up , it will run as long as the rigger listens to him !!!
I agree, that the imco is a good drive but not for 700 + HP !!!!!
No matter what they claim.
Sorry
Uncle Dave
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The arneson is indeed cool.
Are there a few smaller (under 30ft ) single engine v's with Arnesons?
I would be interested in seeing them.
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There is /was an old 30 foot velocity with twin arneson....so i don't see why a 26-30 could not run with a single !?
Rik, i bet has some more info on that !:cheers2:
MOBILEMERCMAN
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DD not for nothing. This thread is about beefing up a bravo. His question wasn't should I re rig my boat, add a transmission, and change everything from the flywheel back.
Uncle Dave
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Id like to see some picts of small single engine v's running an Arneson.
Single v's running surface piercing apps can have strange handling characteristics. Twins no problem.
I think that certain ASD's can run standard bravo style props, which may mitigate this issue somewhat but not fully.
I dont think anyone can logically argue that in a twin app its not a great way to go.
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MOBILEMERCMAN
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I agree.
I have yet to see a single worth talking about. If they worked someone would be racing one.
I have yet to see a single worth talking about. If they worked someone would be racing one.
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Why do u always really think u know everything...
I don't get it, the man does not need to rerig the boat , the arneson convertion fits 100% since the tranny is in the conversion box and bolts up to the stock bravo transom cut out !!!!!
Also i bet there are some smaller boats with that conversion ,,,Rik will chime in !!!!!!!!!!
Beefing up a bravo is in my opinon about getting a stronger drive that fits the transom and holds up to 700 + HP !!!!!!
NO ???:leaving:
And by the way Jim, u have yet to see a lot of things that changed since u worked for fountain or been merc active !!!!! IMO
Sorry
And why is it that u always have to argue with me ???
Let the man decide what he wants .....mhhhhhhh
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MOBILEMERCMAN
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I don't claim to know everything.. Just show me one that works as a single.
I like them for twins.
I like them for twins.
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If a bravo works, why wouldn't an arneson CONVERSION work,,,its called CONVERSION !!!!!!!!!
I will find u one ,,let me search .
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I purchased a 1981 Carrera 21 ft. Elite about ten years ago with a bbc and an Arneson ASD6 drive. I'm a swimming pool contractor and had been working on Arneson pool cleaners for years so when the boat came up for sale I had to have it. I still have the boat and the boat has had several motors but the drive has never been apart. A great package and you get the Arneson rooster tail. Your project sounds great, good luck. Doug
This is a quote from ......u know where.
This is a quote from ......u know where.
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here is an other....
04-24-2007, 09:35 PM #13
Rik
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Originally Posted by 920stjb
I worked on the original 22' that Steve put an Arneson in/on.
I am also the one that got to fill in the transom for the SS/M 3 to replace it. DON'T DO IT!!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arneson Drive, it just didn't work on the 22'er. In my time there, he never tried one again, I have no idea why.
Why don't you call Velocity and talk to Steve personally? He's very approachable and a really nice person.
Tell him Steve Bartus said to call him and I said "Hi" to him and family. Also tell him I said to quit that wussy golfing and get into a manly pursuit, like racing boats or something.
Call him, you can only benefit from it.
How long ago was this?
If they, and I know they didn't, use our new ASD6 Kit the engine would have to be mounted too far forward for the CG of a small boat.
The only issue with such a small boat is balance and the engine placement is where the problem is.
I have 28' Velocity with the Arneson Kit and it hadles fine, docks easy, gets on plane easy and has good bow lift.
22 with to forward cg??
04-24-2007, 09:35 PM #13
Rik
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Originally Posted by 920stjb
I worked on the original 22' that Steve put an Arneson in/on.
I am also the one that got to fill in the transom for the SS/M 3 to replace it. DON'T DO IT!!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arneson Drive, it just didn't work on the 22'er. In my time there, he never tried one again, I have no idea why.
Why don't you call Velocity and talk to Steve personally? He's very approachable and a really nice person.
Tell him Steve Bartus said to call him and I said "Hi" to him and family. Also tell him I said to quit that wussy golfing and get into a manly pursuit, like racing boats or something.
Call him, you can only benefit from it.
How long ago was this?
If they, and I know they didn't, use our new ASD6 Kit the engine would have to be mounted too far forward for the CG of a small boat.
The only issue with such a small boat is balance and the engine placement is where the problem is.
I have 28' Velocity with the Arneson Kit and it hadles fine, docks easy, gets on plane easy and has good bow lift.
22 with to forward cg??
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An other post..........
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Originally Posted by Padraig
Rik, how about more info on your 280 with arneson drive. what engine/hp etc. What gains if any did you see and what is a typical price for this type of conversion?
Thanks,
I think the boat is about 3 yrs old.
28' with a 1000-1200 hp engine
They're trying to get it to the Desert Storm Poker Run this weekend.
Short water test, gets on plane better than the Bravo customer says, easier to steer, and better acceleration. Ran up to 95 and no handling issues with great ride attitude he says.
No issues docking.
AI#7M Kit
Running a Hering 5 blade propeller. Don't know the specifics on it but I think it is a 32P. Customer thinks its too small.
Will know more after they tow for 13 hrs to get to Havasu.
This customer has EXPLODED everything off the back of the boat prior to this. BMAX, IMCO, TEAGUE, MAX Machine, etc.
Goal is 105-110.
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Originally Posted by Padraig
Rik, how about more info on your 280 with arneson drive. what engine/hp etc. What gains if any did you see and what is a typical price for this type of conversion?
Thanks,
I think the boat is about 3 yrs old.
28' with a 1000-1200 hp engine
They're trying to get it to the Desert Storm Poker Run this weekend.
Short water test, gets on plane better than the Bravo customer says, easier to steer, and better acceleration. Ran up to 95 and no handling issues with great ride attitude he says.
No issues docking.
AI#7M Kit
Running a Hering 5 blade propeller. Don't know the specifics on it but I think it is a 32P. Customer thinks its too small.
Will know more after they tow for 13 hrs to get to Havasu.
This customer has EXPLODED everything off the back of the boat prior to this. BMAX, IMCO, TEAGUE, MAX Machine, etc.
Goal is 105-110.
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A guy that did it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posts: 9 I own the 280 rik is talking about.
it is a stock bottom and still retains the notch transom.the install was pretty simple and i can t say enough about rik.evertime i had a question, or needed a part,it was there.
performance is pretty awsome . the boat jumps on plane like a rocket. and so far the mid and up into mid 90 s is great. also the smooth water porpus is gone completly. I have not yet gone wide open only because this is an injected motor and did not have time to remap before my computer battery died.
I did call steve , he said it would not work. But after every thing else failed , I took the chance. Just like you guys i heard all this stuff , and now after runnig the boat i will say it is all b.s. If i get time to get the mapping done by mid day fri, I ll be on my way to the desert storm.
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Posts: 9 I own the 280 rik is talking about.
it is a stock bottom and still retains the notch transom.the install was pretty simple and i can t say enough about rik.evertime i had a question, or needed a part,it was there.
performance is pretty awsome . the boat jumps on plane like a rocket. and so far the mid and up into mid 90 s is great. also the smooth water porpus is gone completly. I have not yet gone wide open only because this is an injected motor and did not have time to remap before my computer battery died.
I did call steve , he said it would not work. But after every thing else failed , I took the chance. Just like you guys i heard all this stuff , and now after runnig the boat i will say it is all b.s. If i get time to get the mapping done by mid day fri, I ll be on my way to the desert storm.
Uncle Dave
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Can you post the links so I can go see some picts?
Id like to read up on the threads.
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Id like to read up on the threads.
UD
Uncle Dave
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Ill poke around the other three sites.
I dont see squat here.
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I dont see squat here.
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