28 Active Thunder vs 28 Pantera vs ???

[Dude! Sweet!]

No way you're not inviting me on that run.....

Im ready to send buoy a ticket to get out here. (Southwest only chief)

Late- Happy New Year Dude!

Uncle Dave

Speaking of... Maybe the 2750 Lavey should be on this list? I don't know if fish and game has let any east of the Missisipi, but definately a cool boat, huh Uncle Dave. And Lavey builds each one with and automatic bikini-top remover... :cheers2:

 

[Uncle Dave]

Speaking of... Maybe the 2750 Lavey should be on this list? I don't know if fish and game has let any east of the Missisipi, but definately a cool boat, huh Uncle Dave. And Lavey builds each one with and automatic bikini-top remover... :cheers2:

Its an interesting thought. Im a bit longer than most 27' s<28.8> sO I can play in the 28 league.

To put the 2750 in the mix brings in the "other coast". Sounds like a nasty fight to get into!

I had heard of a 2750 sighting out in the east but nothing confirmed.....



UD

 

[Buoy]

No way you're not inviting me on that run.....

Im ready to send buoy a ticket to get out here. (Southwest only chief)

Late- Happy New Year Dude!

Uncle Dave

Name the time.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Greetings Bouy!

I usually do the "glamis thing" till about March.
I think I get one free insurance layup release though.

Ive got 2 quads and a dirt bike and can probably scrounge up another banshee.
Next trip is scheduled first week of Feb - any of you guys Game?

This is From New Years.
The car is the Camires (owners of LaveyCraft) Mazda 13B Turbo

Im anxious to see what the Pantera offshore experience is all about.
These rigs (and to fair the AT's do as well) have a good rep.

UD

 

[Dude! Sweet!]

I've never been out to Glamis but I'd love to go some time. Right now we're cranking to get the race boat ready for March and get our skiier in the water so we can start doing a weekly practice for Catalina. No rest for the stupid (me), I guess... :sifone:

 

[Uncle Dave]

Dude -

Ive spent some time looking at the AT, and the Pantera and the Lavey is actually an interesting choice to compare against.

Lots of subjective, and objective things to look at.
Heres the data posted (cut and paste) right from each manufacturers site.

Pantera 28

Centerline Length 28 ft.
Beam Maximum 8 ft.
Net Weight Approx. 5,250 lbs.
Draft to Keel 22 inches
Fuel Capacity 140 gallons

(I know the New Pantera 28 Joe shows has a stepped hull as well.)

AT 28 savage

loa...........27.10.
beam..........8.2.
weight......4800, dry
fuel capacity......100 gal.
Hull design: 24 degree Deep-Vee Offshore

LaveyCraft 2750

Hull Design/Ventilated Double Step
Overall / Centerline Length 28' 6"
Beam 8' 6"
Deadrise 24 Degrees
Cockpit Depth 49”
Approximate Hull Weight w/ Single Engine 4500 LBS
Standard Fuel Capacity 100 Gallons

All three families seem to forge superb personal relationships with clients.

There are many design elements and compromises to consider between these boats.

Swim step - molded/ vs bolted
windscreen differences
cockpit details
molded in details/gunwale storage
interior -
Cabin space-
gel vs paint-

Many of these details come down to personal preference, but there are lots of cool things to like about all these rides.


If you are opening it up a bit more the Nordic Heat, and the advantage victory should be there.
Each of these offers interesting compromises, and unique design as well.




UD

 

[Steve 1]

Look For Magnum to reissue the 27 Giovanni was doing something very cool with it!

 

[dennis1009]

Dude -

Ive spent some time looking at the AT, and the Pantera and the Lavey is actually an interesting choice to compare against.

Lots of subjective, and objective things to look at.
Heres the data posted (cut and paste) right from each manufacturers site.

Pantera 28

Centerline Length 28 ft.
Beam Maximum 8 ft.
Net Weight Approx. 5,250 lbs.
Draft to Keel 22 inches
Fuel Capacity 140 gallons

(I know the New Pantera 28 Joe shows has a stepped hull as well.)

AT 28 savage

loa...........27.10.
beam..........8.2.
weight......4800, dry
fuel capacity......100 gal.
Hull design: 24 degree Deep-Vee Offshore

LaveyCraft 2750

Hull Design/Ventilated Double Step
Overall / Centerline Length 28' 6"
Beam 8' 6"
Deadrise 24 Degrees
Cockpit Depth 49”
Approximate Hull Weight w/ Single Engine 4500 LBS
Standard Fuel Capacity 100 Gallons

All three families seem to forge superb personal relationships with clients.

There are many design elements and compromises to consider between these boats.

Swim step - molded/ vs bolted
windscreen differences
cockpit details
molded in details/gunwale storage
interior -
Cabin space-
gel vs paint-

Many of these details come down to personal preference, but there are lots of cool things to like about all these rides.


If you are opening it up a bit more the Nordic Heat, and the advantage victory should be there.
Each of these offers interesting compromises, and unique design as well.




UD

Thanks for the info very informative.

 

[cosmic12]

I had a 28 Nordic w/500efi, Nice boat for a lake and not all that fast. Great cabin.
Actually I was a dealer for them and we couldn't give'm away.
They don't belong anywhere near inthe same class as the A.T. or Pantera.




Dennis, whats the deal?

 

[Dude! Sweet!]

I had a 28 Nordic w/500efi, Nice boat for a lake and not all that fast. Great cabin.
Actually I was a dealer for them and we couldn't give'm away.
They don't belong anywhere near inthe same class as the A.T. or Pantera.

Dennis, whats the deal?

I was looking at a 21' Nordic Cyclone last weekend with a 700 and an NXT... Wow was that thing a badass!

 

[cowisl]

I really like my 28 Powerplay, great in the rough.

Not quite as deep as an AT I don't think though, but still not a "small boat".

No newer one's out there though, and not many at all actually. Just thought I'd throw it out there as when I was looking it was the 3rd Fl built boat that was comparable with Pantera/AT.

We love our 28' PP

 

[Uncle Dave]

I really like my 28 Powerplay, great in the rough.

Not quite as deep as an AT I don't think though, but still not a "small boat".

No newer one's out there though, and not many at all actually. Just thought I'd throw it out there as when I was looking it was the 3rd Fl built boat that was comparable with Pantera/AT.

I found a few picts on this rig. Pretty nice.

Profile wise it looks a lot like my Lavey with a bit steeper windscreen and roughly the same low profile nose maybe a bit thicker - but thinner than AT, Pantera, Advantage , and Nordic -

The Advantage is probably the best weekender of the group (downside 22degree v) , with the AT next.

This couch space on the 2750 is ok, but the v birth is quite tight on it.
Its not as spacious a weekender as the other three.

As you say about the PP- its not a small boat- its actually quite a big "27"" simply put - there is a compromise in interior space to achieve its look.

Blue boat long shot is the power play, the closer one the Lavey. (Not mine, but a 2750)

The sunny is nice as well.


Uncle Dave

 

[Uncle Dave]

Look For Magnum to reissue the 27 Giovanni was doing something very cool with it!

http://www.magnummarine.com/27.html

This one?

UD

 

[bulletbob]

Cowisl, I love you PP also. If I had the money for a second boat yours would be at my dock. Good luck with the sale. Bob

 

[Steve 1]

http://www.magnummarine.com/27.html

This one?

UD

Yes they have been working on it for a while as the place was busy with the large boats, Now out back there was an Old Missile sitting there and coming up as a future project. Way Cool all the old brochures and Decals they have for it from in the Day.

 

[cowisl]

Cowisl, I love you PP also. If I had the money for a second boat yours would be at my dock. Good luck with the sale. Bob

Thank you!

 

[Uncle Dave]

Yes they have been working on it for a while as the place was busy with the large boats, Now out back there was an Old Missile sitting there and coming up as a future project. Way Cool all the old brochures and Decals they have for it from in the Day.

I think with the era of easy home equity lines well behind us many manufactuerers are dusting off their molds and getting prepped the smaller 20-30ft boats.

Not only are they easier to buy, they are usually easier on everything else as well, and at 25ft -30 do offer real offshore capability.

I think magnums showing a lot of business sense.

UD

 

[RLJ676]

I found a few picts on this rig. Pretty nice.

Profile wise it looks a lot like my Lavey with a bit steeper windscreen and roughly the same low profile nose maybe a bit thicker - but thinner than AT, Pantera, Advantage , and Nordic -

The Advantage is probably the best weekender of the group (downside 22degree v) , with the AT next.

This couch space on the 2750 is ok, but the v birth is quite tight on it.
Its not as spacious a weekender as the other three.

As you say about the PP- its not a small boat- its actually quite a big "27"" simply put - there is a compromise in interior space to achieve its look.

Blue boat long shot is the power play, the closer one the Lavey. (Not mine, but a 2750)

The sunny is nice as well.


Uncle Dave

Is that a 28 pictured, or a bigger PP? It looks like a bigger one to me.

I'm pretty sure the length is a full 28? Here's mine.

You are right about the Lavey being worth considering here. Probably the only West Coast boat worth mentioning in this conversation.

 

[cowisl]

Is that a 28 pictured, or a bigger PP? It looks like a bigger one to me.

I'm pretty sure the length is a full 28? Here's mine.

You are right about the Lavey being worth considering here. Probably the only West Coast boat worth mentioning in this conversation.

The one he posted is of our 38

 

[Uncle Dave]

The one he posted is of our 38

that was why it was such a big 27! (mixing my 7 and 8's here)

(probably a side effect of living near the "soothing sounds" of my yamaha generator last night until the DPW guys could bring power back on line)


I was digging around trying to find powerplay 28 picts. Do have the link where I found that pict? Ive looked all over trying to find it.


Does the PP 28 have a belly tank or side tanks?

UD